judgeposer Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 No, I don't think it's possible for her to win the presidency. Inasmuch as experience and playing to the political center does not seem to account for how President Obama won the election, I don't think Sarah Palin can similarly win. Whereas the Democratic base gained tremendous energy and growth from Obama's campaign, I don't think Conservatives, presumably the base of the Republican Party, will react similarly to her campaign, should she decide to run. While see seems to enjoy a tremendous fandom among the "disenfranchised" sect of the Republican Party, ideologue Conservatives, particularly those of a slightly more intellectual bent don't seem at all impressed or enamored by her. Also, moderate Republicans seem to be gaining strength at a pace eclipsing their working-class counterparts of the Party. Even if she does manage to eek out a primary win, I don't think she can win an the general election because she does not have the wide popularity Obama enjoyed in order to close the deal in the general election. Whether Republicans have a shot at winning the next presidential election will depend on the rest of the President's tenure. I can more easily see the party nominating an up-and-coming star or an old, converted soul like Newt way before I can see them aligning themselves with Palin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 (edited) So it's not sad to anyone else that humans exist that actually think 1) She can take hold of the presidency. 2) She is capable of being a president. 3) Her book is amazing and not only buy it, but get it signed... at Costco. Anyone who thinks Palin can do anything needs to go get their GED and read a Vonnegut book... or any book. ** and what the fuck is with the "We need a woman in the Office" idea? A woman is just as capable being a President as any man, but this woman obviously is not qualified to do anything of value in our society, save keeping the endangered wolf population low and out of ranches. Edited December 11, 2009 by Hippo_Master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvtaco17 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 [quote name='INCUBUSRATM' date='10 December 2009 - 10:27 PM' timestamp='1260505649' post='437829'] Alls I gots to say is... Fuck Sarah Palin. Literally... LOL. EDIT: [img]http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/aaron666nyc/sarah-palin-sexy-gun.jpg[/img] [/quote] Why did you post that... NOB will never be the same again after seeing that.... also 'Rani thank you for posting all of your replies... as I was reading the thread I was getting agitated at the misquotes and fears that were being spewed forth onto our digital playground... you saved me from going off and sounding angry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. B Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='hookahTIY' date='11 December 2009 - 05:54 AM' timestamp='1260532492' post='437907'] [quote name='Dr. B' date='10 December 2009 - 10:06 PM' timestamp='1260504405' post='437822'] [quote name='hookahTIY' date='10 December 2009 - 08:05 PM' timestamp='1260497158' post='437783'] ( Ron Paul)... ( JFK ). ...( Ron Paul). [/quote] I think I see the problem here... Seriously though, I didn't want to bite on a tangent but think about what you're doing here. Rani did a good enough job pointing out your erroneous information but I'd like to advise you to take a step back and determine if you really know what can of worms you're opening. I'm not trying to be a dick (but the Ron Paul comments are hilarious) but rather I'm just trying to stop this topic from spiraling out of control because I have something to say about Palin. Before I say it however, I want to know: What made JFK a good president? Just curious about your opinion. What made Paul a good candidate? ... while we're at it. Palin: I do not think she has a chance of running with the GOP. She was their last ditch effort in '08 and they crashed and burned. Strategically, if the Republicans want any shot of taking office they ought to get serious again. The McCain/Palin ticket was a scramble - a rush to slap some novel faces on a tired idea (at least from the perspective of the country). I don't know who may be on the primary ticket, but I have a little more faith in the GOP than to presume they would put Palin on it. [/quote] I think JFK was a good prez because he was planing on or at least thinking about ending the federal reserve. Ron Paul was a good candidate for the same reason plus now he has been pushing for some time to audit the FED witch has never been done before. On to of that he wanted to do away with the IRS and go back to the gold standard and down size the size of government all together. In my opinion the government has became to big to intrusive and in some areas boarding on tyranny and/or socialism/Marxism. [/quote] are you familiar with the strong correlation between stable economic growth and the central bank's autonomy? People hate on the central banks (the federal reserve in our case) but don't seem to understand how hands-off they are on microeconomic policy making (which individuals are presumably most competent at... presumably) or how the only monetary policy they implement is with regards to macroeconomic coordination, which individuals and even groups of large banks are incapable of. Maybe if you can tell me some REAL shortcomings of having a central bank I'll take you seriously, but I've heared this half-assed rhetoric time and time before. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE FED? The gold standard: really? do you understand the implications of pegging our currency to a single commodity? It would be like having a fixed exchange rate regime in place in all nations of the world because nobody would try to devalue their currency by trading gold. Fixed exchange rates are not conducive to efficient markets and over time, the forces which would motivate convergence in things like the international labor market or the market for loanable funds would be barred from their abilities. There's a reason we got rid of it, we didn't exactly do it on a whim. WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT THE GOLD STANDARD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 Better yet, TIY, do you even know why we don't have the gold standard anymore? There's good reasons we don't have it anymore and good reasons we should never have it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 I know we've jacked the hell out of this thread, but what infuriates me is that the money mongers of big business whose record profits are still compiling at our expense during this recession, victimize the American public by putting forward innundos, and outright lies in order to support their continued profiteering. They will use fear as a weapon against us in the hopes that we will follow the rhetoric and never use our own intelligence to examine the reality of a situation that may threaten their profits. We were paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline, being told there was a shortage, and yet the oil companies posted record profits. This type of action has become the standard for American big business and it has to stop. Wall Street raped all of us and our legislators are closing the barn door long after the horse is gone. Health care is abysmal in this country compared to other civilized countries and yet when we insist they fix it, what to they do? Once again prey on our fears and feed us irrational arguments. When we allow them to lead us by our emotions before we depend on our logic and intelligence we are less than sheep. We are cattle already halfway to slaughter. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='09 December 2009 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1260412857' post='437479'] Two words: Snoball. Hell. My reasons are: 1) She comes across as a bit of an airhead. Whether she is or not is a moot point. Perception is everything in politics. [/quote] But look at Barbra Boxer, and her crook-husband, and nancy botox, er, I mean pelosi. Hell, even al-"million degrees"-gore. They bring new level of meaning meaning to airhead. [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='09 December 2009 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1260412857' post='437479'] 2) She bailed on her office before the end of her term to do a book tour and make money putting her personal finances above her pledge to her office. Not showing a whole lot of loyalty to her constituents by doing so. [/quote] The majority of the thinking people realize that it takes little money to file a frivolous lawsuit, and much to defend it. I think we are going to see allot more about the loopy-lefties doing just exactly that in Alaska. She saved Alaska a fortune in legal expenses by getting out. I might be off, but I suspect there is allot to it that we haven't heard yet. [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='09 December 2009 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1260412857' post='437479'] 3) She has been very critical in interviews, (and in the book I'm told though I haven't read it), of the Republican party and McCain's handlers throughout the last campaign. As a result she's unlikely to get any serious backing from the party. They tend to resent those that bit the hand that fed them. [/quote] critical of that bunch of clowns is a plus. Most of us realize that the GOP has been a bigger bunch of hypocrites than the DFL since about the time of Nixon. Here we hear local advertisements telling people to donate directly to a candidate, rather than the GOP at large. The adds cite the GOP's lack of conservative candidates, and the party backing the more liberal of several candidates. The GOP is headed the way of the Whigs at this point. The funny part, that bunch of clown-asses doesn't even realize it. [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='09 December 2009 - 08:40 PM' timestamp='1260412857' post='437479'] 4) Scandal. Levi Johnson's book will be coming out in the next year and they are at serious odds with each other with a lot of slander flying. Doesn't matter if any of it's true, it's dirty linen. The American public wants to believe the candidates are squeaky clean even if we know they really aren't. 'Rani [/quote] Scandal doesn't do anything these days. In case you haven't noticed, our current politicians are about as scandal ridden as they come. How could levi be any worse than the bill ayres? Or selling his vacant seat, acorn, apollo project, the untold number of tax-cheats in the obama admin, the list could go on. People don't give a damn about scandals any more. Besides, it appears that it is backfiring on levi. Palin's biggest support group is 30-something married women... in that crowd levi's cheap shots will just make him look like a bitter-boy at best, but could easily become the person that rallys palin's support base more. Any person that has dealt with a vindictive ex sees through the levi BS in a second. It will come to 3 events, healthcare, federal deficit and crap & fade. Unless something changes, it's a bloodbath for incumbents in 2010 and 2012. Huckabee has better polling numbers than obummer at this point. Early to tell, but I think that is the race we will be seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='11 December 2009 - 10:23 PM' timestamp='1260591805' post='438212'] I know we've jacked the hell out of this thread, but what infuriates me is that the money mongers of big business whose record profits are still compiling at our expense during this recession, victimize the American public by putting forward innundos, and outright lies in order to support their continued profiteering. They will use fear as a weapon against us in the hopes that we will follow the rhetoric and never use our own intelligence to examine the reality of a situation that may threaten their profits. We were paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline, being told there was a shortage, and yet the oil companies posted record profits. This type of action has become the standard for American big business and it has to stop. Wall Street raped all of us and our legislators are closing the barn door long after the horse is gone. Health care is abysmal in this country compared to other civilized countries and yet when we insist they fix it, what to they do? Once again prey on our fears and feed us irrational arguments. When we allow them to lead us by our emotions before we depend on our logic and intelligence we are less than sheep. We are cattle already halfway to slaughter. 'Rani [/quote] Forgot to add... average American income $42,000.00/yr average federal employee income $72,950.00/yr. At the current rate, by 2019 the federal debt alone will equal 100% of the GDP. anyone that thinks wall street is raping them needs to take a close look at all of the numbers, both government, and private. healthcare is abysmal... Hmm, that is why citizens from other countries come here for treatment I guess. They are all in search of abysmal treatment, ya, sure. That is everyone's goal, travel all over the world looking for abysmal healthcare... then go get some. It makes perfect sense to me. http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649 Wow... for abysmal care, it looks pretty damn good to me. http://brian.carnell.com/articles/2003/survival-rates-in-the-british-nhs-vs-us-hospitals/ Yep, the odds still look better in the abysmal US system than the NHS... numbers don't lie, politicians with an agenda to get control of everything do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='TheScotsman' date='11 December 2009 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1260600819' post='438251'] [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='11 December 2009 - 10:23 PM' timestamp='1260591805' post='438212'] I know we've jacked the hell out of this thread, but what infuriates me is that the money mongers of big business whose record profits are still compiling at our expense during this recession, victimize the American public by putting forward innundos, and outright lies in order to support their continued profiteering. They will use fear as a weapon against us in the hopes that we will follow the rhetoric and never use our own intelligence to examine the reality of a situation that may threaten their profits. We were paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline, being told there was a shortage, and yet the oil companies posted record profits. This type of action has become the standard for American big business and it has to stop. Wall Street raped all of us and our legislators are closing the barn door long after the horse is gone. Health care is abysmal in this country compared to other civilized countries and yet when we insist they fix it, what to they do? Once again prey on our fears and feed us irrational arguments. When we allow them to lead us by our emotions before we depend on our logic and intelligence we are less than sheep. We are cattle already halfway to slaughter. 'Rani [/quote] Forgot to add... average American income $42,000.00/yr average federal employee income $72,950.00/yr. At the current rate, by 2019 the federal debt alone will equal 100% of the GDP. anyone that thinks wall street is raping them needs to take a close look at all of the numbers, both government, and private. healthcare is abysmal... Hmm, that is why citizens from other countries come here for treatment I guess. They are all in search of abysmal treatment, ya, sure. That is everyone's goal, travel all over the world looking for abysmal healthcare... then go get some. It makes perfect sense to me. [url="http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649"]http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649[/url] Wow... for abysmal care, it looks pretty damn good to me. [url="http://brian.carnell.com/articles/2003/survival-rates-in-the-british-nhs-vs-us-hospitals/"]http://brian.carnell...s-us-hospitals/[/url] Yep, the odds still look better in the abysmal US system than the NHS... numbers don't lie, politicians with an agenda to get control of everything do. [/quote] Gotta love how you continue to take only bits and pieces of what someone else says so you can argue about it. Are you sure you're not a politician?????? Citizens of 3rd world nations who have no health care often come here for treatment that is almost entirely free through the charitable contributions of hospitals and doctors. That much is true. But any of the industrialized nations have health care at least the equal of our own. Without the exorbitant premiums. In fact, many Americans now travel abroad in search of that health care and medications because they can't afford it here. 'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookahTIY Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='11 December 2009 - 10:23 PM' timestamp='1260591805' post='438212'] I know we've jacked the hell out of this thread, but what infuriates me is that the money mongers of big business whose record profits are still compiling at our expense during this recession, victimize the American public by putting forward innundos, and outright lies in order to support their continued profiteering. They will use fear as a weapon against us in the hopes that we will follow the rhetoric and never use our own intelligence to examine the reality of a situation that may threaten their profits. We were paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline, being told there was a shortage, and yet the oil companies posted record profits. This type of action has become the standard for American big business and it has to stop. Wall Street raped all of us and our legislators are closing the barn door long after the horse is gone. Health care is abysmal in this country compared to other civilized countries and yet when we insist they fix it, what to they do? Once again prey on our fears and feed us irrational arguments. When we allow them to lead us by our emotions before we depend on our logic and intelligence we are less than sheep. We are cattle already halfway to slaughter. 'Rani [/quote] yeah what she said. And to person that asked me what is wrong with the FED. The problem is that it is a privately owned entity that has never be audited or fully investigate. So how know what there doing and what deals they have with who. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='10 December 2009 - 09:25 PM' timestamp='1260501959' post='437818'] By the way, the DEA doesn't clear you for gun ownership. Your state does. And even if the Federal government did take control of it, it would be covered by the ATF. Not the DEA. 'Rani [/quote] by the way, you are wrong Last time I checked the "F" in FBI stood for federal. The ATF has jack to do with the NCIS background check. poached from the FBI's website: In November 1993, the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act of 1993 (Brady Act), Public Law 103-159, was signed into law requiring Federal Firearms Licensees (FFLs) to request background checks on prospective firearm transferees. The permanent provisions of the Brady Act, which went into effect on November 30, 1998, required the U.S. Attorney General to establish the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) so that any FFL may contact by telephone, or by other electronic means, for information to be supplied immediately, on whether the transfer of a firearm would violate Section 922 (g) or (n) of Title 18, United States Code (U.S.C.), [i]or[/i] state law. The NICS is a national system that checks available records in the National Crime Information Center (NCIC), the Interstate Identification Index (III), and the NICS Index to determine if prospective transferees are disqualified from receiving firearms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaz1337 Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='12 December 2009 - 02:51 AM' timestamp='1260604268' post='438262'] [quote name='TheScotsman' date='11 December 2009 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1260600819' post='438251'] [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='11 December 2009 - 10:23 PM' timestamp='1260591805' post='438212'] I know we've jacked the hell out of this thread, but what infuriates me is that the money mongers of big business whose record profits are still compiling at our expense during this recession, victimize the American public by putting forward innundos, and outright lies in order to support their continued profiteering. They will use fear as a weapon against us in the hopes that we will follow the rhetoric and never use our own intelligence to examine the reality of a situation that may threaten their profits. We were paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline, being told there was a shortage, and yet the oil companies posted record profits. This type of action has become the standard for American big business and it has to stop. Wall Street raped all of us and our legislators are closing the barn door long after the horse is gone. Health care is abysmal in this country compared to other civilized countries and yet when we insist they fix it, what to they do? Once again prey on our fears and feed us irrational arguments. When we allow them to lead us by our emotions before we depend on our logic and intelligence we are less than sheep. We are cattle already halfway to slaughter. 'Rani [/quote] Forgot to add... average American income $42,000.00/yr average federal employee income $72,950.00/yr. At the current rate, by 2019 the federal debt alone will equal 100% of the GDP. anyone that thinks wall street is raping them needs to take a close look at all of the numbers, both government, and private. healthcare is abysmal... Hmm, that is why citizens from other countries come here for treatment I guess. They are all in search of abysmal treatment, ya, sure. That is everyone's goal, travel all over the world looking for abysmal healthcare... then go get some. It makes perfect sense to me. [url="http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649"]http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649[/url] Wow... for abysmal care, it looks pretty damn good to me. [url="http://brian.carnell.com/articles/2003/survival-rates-in-the-british-nhs-vs-us-hospitals/"]http://brian.carnell...s-us-hospitals/[/url] Yep, the odds still look better in the abysmal US system than the NHS... numbers don't lie, politicians with an agenda to get control of everything do. [/quote] Gotta love how you continue to take only bits and pieces of what someone else says so you can argue about it. Are you sure you're not a politician?????? [b][color="#ff0000"]Citizens of 3rd world nations who have no health care often come here for treatment that is almost entirely free through the charitable contributions of hospitals and doctors.[/color][/b] That much is true. But any of the industrialized nations have health care at least the equal of our own. Without the exorbitant premiums. In fact, many Americans now travel abroad in search of that health care and medications because they can't afford it here. 'Rani [/quote] Obviously our healthcare system needs reform if the current system is generous and caring... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judgeposer Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='BohoWildChild' date='12 December 2009 - 02:51 AM' timestamp='1260604268' post='438262'] [quote name='TheScotsman' date='11 December 2009 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1260600819' post='438251'] Forgot to add... average American income $42,000.00/yr average federal employee income $72,950.00/yr. At the current rate, by 2019 the federal debt alone will equal 100% of the GDP. anyone that thinks wall street is raping them needs to take a close look at all of the numbers, both government, and private. healthcare is abysmal... Hmm, that is why citizens from other countries come here for treatment I guess. They are all in search of abysmal treatment, ya, sure. That is everyone's goal, travel all over the world looking for abysmal healthcare... then go get some. It makes perfect sense to me. [url="http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649"]http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba649[/url] Wow... for abysmal care, it looks pretty damn good to me. [url="http://brian.carnell.com/articles/2003/survival-rates-in-the-british-nhs-vs-us-hospitals/"]http://brian.carnell...s-us-hospitals/[/url] Yep, the odds still look better in the abysmal US system than the NHS... numbers don't lie, politicians with an agenda to get control of everything do. [/quote] Gotta love how you continue to take only bits and pieces of what someone else says so you can argue about it. Are you sure you're not a politician?????? Citizens of 3rd world nations who have no health care often come here for treatment that is almost entirely free through the charitable contributions of hospitals and doctors. That much is true. But any of the industrialized nations have health care at least the equal of our own. Without the exorbitant premiums. In fact, many Americans now travel abroad in search of that health care and medications because they can't afford it here. 'Rani [/quote] Thread jacked indeed...but nonetheless interesting, and reply-worthy if you ask me. I think both of you are a bit off, as I see it... Scot - I don't know where you got your stats regarding average pay, but even assuming they're correct, I don't see what implications follow from those figures? That government workers, and the government is overpaying people? I dunno... I work for the government and get paid decently for what I do, I admit. With my experience and education, I can, however, earn nearly twice as much if I decided to work in the private sector. The government - meaning all levels - do offer great benefits and comparably decent pay, though often underpaying staff of comparable skill compared to their private sector counterparts. I, and my coworkers, enjoy free healthcare (meaning, that we do not suffer a payroll deduction for it, but we're paying for it, in part, through reduced salaries) and a legion of other intangible benefits, but we do not make as much as we could, given our skill sets and experience. Could the government do away with some or even most of our jobs, sure. Though, we do not operate with the efficiency or concern for a bottom-line that the corporate model demands. Sorry if my reply doesn't address what your post addressed. Consider my reply, in that case, just another perspective that might account for the figures you cite. About healthcare - Just because foreigners come to this country to receive healthcare doesn't mean our system, as a whole, is necessarily better. Most come because they know they can receive free care through our emergency rooms for care they'd have to wait to receive or have been denied in their home countries. Consider that, perhaps, a loophole in our system, and not an indication that we necessarily deliver adequate or better care generally. Our healthcare system is broken, though I do not mean by that that our facilities or delivery of care is sub-par, which is what I believe you take that criticism to mean. When most cite our devastated system, they're not referring to its lack of advancement or sub-par care, they're referring to the system's overall efficiency, and ability to deliver care widely, to the people that require it the most. Those politicians supporting healthcare reform, I do not think, are doing so because they believe other systems offer [i]better [/i]care, they're doing so because our system doesn't deliver that care to those who need it most. Rani - I don't think charity explains at all what's happening. Doctors and hospitals recoup their costs through other ways, like billing at a "retail" rate those without insurance. Also, they leverage their expenses with those who carry insurance, but pay far less for the care they receive because they receive care at a "wholesale" price. I don't think there's any genuine charity going on - doctors and hospitals aren't offering anyone "free" care, they're merely shifting the costs of some care to the price they charge others. Of course those receiving such care don't pay for it, but someone does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralleac Posted December 12, 2009 Share Posted December 12, 2009 [quote name='hookahTIY' date='11 December 2009 - 04:54 AM' timestamp='1260536054' post='437912'] I will post one more reply with some links you might find interesting: The first one shows that gun control does have some thing to do with the health care bill/bills. [url="http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/6971"]Centers for Disease Control has begun researching gun violence and the impact of gun violence on health care costs [/url]--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [url="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/07/18/mandatory-death-counseling-under-health-care-reform/"]Mandatory Death Counseling Under Health Care Reform?[/url] --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [url="http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9BKUE5O0&show_article=1"]It's alive! End-of-life counseling in health bill[/url] [/quote] Are you familiar with palliative care at all? It has come a long way as thanatology has become more prominent. Counseling and education about death and dying is not the same thing as the creation of a "death list" for senior citizens. Contemplating death can be disturbing, but it is something everyone has to come to terms with. The reaction of fear and outrage at the mere mention of end of life counseling just goes to show how American culture has changed over the past century. Instead of accepting death we ignore it as long as we can, disregarding the resulting consequences to the elderly and the dying in our society as they are brushed under the rug along with the entire concept of death itself. I don't support the health care reform because I believe it will just wind up costing us more money in the long run. Our government tends to waste a lot of money (our tax dollars) in the process of getting just about anything done, and I do not see how this would be any different. However, I've read a lot of articles regarding the end of life counseling and I have yet to see anything that indicates they would be restricting coverage to the elderly or encouraging them to give up on life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr b packenwood Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i would so tap that!! and her slutty daughter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='dr b packenwood' date='12 December 2009 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1260672086' post='438471'] i would so tap that!! and her [i]slutty daughter[/i] [/quote] Oh man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kvtaco17 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 [quote name='Hippo_Master' date='12 December 2009 - 11:53 PM' timestamp='1260683610' post='438534'] [quote name='dr b packenwood' date='12 December 2009 - 08:41 PM' timestamp='1260672086' post='438471'] i would so tap that!! and her [i]slutty daughter[/i] [/quote] Oh man. [/quote] At the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr b packenwood Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 high five for the assist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 Mother daughter FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 As someone who actually has met Sarah Palin and Bristol I think you should show a bit more respect. You act like you, or someone you know, hasn't had sex before they were married. Do you call yourself or your friends sluts as well? Whether or not you agree with her politics you should still respect them as human beings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatonethere Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) [quote name='FSUReligionMan' date='13 December 2009 - 10:09 AM' timestamp='1260724177' post='438626'] As someone who actually has met Sarah Palin and Bristol I think you should show a bit more respect. You act like you, or someone you know, hasn't had sex before they were married. Do you call yourself or your friends sluts as well? Whether or not you agree with her politics you should still respect them as human beings. [/quote] I agree, but Lets be honest here folks. I've been wanting to ask this question for a long time. Is Bristol any different, than say, the one girl you went to high school with who ended up dropping out because she got pregnant. If so, then what makes her different. I'm not saying that it's ok for someone to label her as a slut, but inquiring minds want to know... Edited December 14, 2009 by thatonethere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hippo_Master Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 [quote name='FSUReligionMan' date='13 December 2009 - 11:09 AM' timestamp='1260724177' post='438626'] As someone who actually has met Sarah Palin and Bristol I think you should show a bit more respect. You act like you, or someone you know, hasn't had sex before they were married. Do you call yourself or your friends sluts as well? Whether or not you agree with her politics you should still respect them as human beings. [/quote] Yes. Then we have sex two times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleTheJustin Posted December 23, 2009 Share Posted December 23, 2009 If Sarah Palin ever became President I would officially renounce my citizenship to the United States. Not because she is a woman, because I think women can do things fifty times better than any man can; however, Sarah Palin, on the opposite end of the spectrum, does things 100 times worse than any human being, thus disabling her from any form of intellect that corresponds with hold a position of power. By the way, why do people STILL post that picture when it's clearly fake/been proved fake, like, two billion times? It's funny and all, but it's just not the real thing haha. And, no, I will not show "respect" to someone who literally embodies the backward ass Christian Right philosophy that would ultimately drive the United States into the ground. If you want an interesting read on the Christian Right, especially from a standpoint of someone who had no opinion of it before writing the text, read Chris Hedge's book [i]American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America.[/i] It sickens me that people defend such a complete moron over her bullshit merits as a true patriot. If Sarah Palin symbolizes patriotism, then consider this my expatriotion. Hilary Clinton is no better, by the way. But, again, this is coming from someone who believes that the country will never change until someone from the working class actually gets into office without the assistance of lobbyists and massive funding from capitalist-driven corporations (not to sound too South Park). Oh well, elect her and let's watch the Modern Rome burn. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyj316 Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 [quote name='FSUReligionMan' date='13 December 2009 - 09:09 AM' timestamp='1260724177' post='438626'] As someone who actually has met Sarah Palin and Bristol I think you should show a bit more respect. You act like you, or someone you know, hasn't had sex before they were married. Do you call yourself or your friends sluts as well? Whether or not you agree with her politics you should still respect them as human beings. [/quote] I call my friends sluts... I myself am a slut... but there ain't no shame in my game... I personally don't respect Palin, not because she's marginally attractive, but because she's a fucking moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiveSpeedF150 Posted December 29, 2009 Share Posted December 29, 2009 I'd say she's currently damaged goods, but if we can pull a dark horse candidate with similar views they'd have my support. Hell, if she's on the ticket against everything else the GOP has threw at us she's still the best. And why are people still using quotes from SNL as something Palin really said? It insults your own intelligence. Finally, she was the governor of AK with very very high approval ratings, which is significantly more of an accomplishment than "Community Organizing", methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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