mushrat Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 So dreamz and potion are passing thermselves off as SB? or they are merely trying to compete with them? I'm not sur ei understand the connection. As for the fake 3 kings, were they in a 3 king box or did they say something else?I'm certainly no fan of counterfeiting goods, but competition is another thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushbr Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 this is why i do all my shopping at HS or MN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 They are fakeshttp://www.hookahstop.com/content/view/76/80/http://www.hookahstop.com/content/view/72/80/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhishPhood Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I dont smoke either, or use 3 kings QLs. Thats still shitty for the real companies, and its a dick move on the part of the guy selling them. He has prob turned off countless people on hookah by supplying shitty stuff with a brand name making them think it sucks =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinthecity Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 was this booth at your shop?what is gabe's mouth tip design? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 MN sells Potion tobacco. I'm curious what their take is on this.Potion Tobacco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Hookah Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (Bulldog_916 @ Mar 10 2008, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>MN sells Potion tobacco. I'm curious what their take is on this.Potion TobaccoHey guys,Im not really sure what DPG is reffering to but when i orderd potion they never said anything about it being starbuzz or anything like that. All i know about potion tobacco is that it is good stuff. We will be sending samples out this month of it as supplies last with every order.So you guys can try for your self.Thanks all , TarikMNH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devils Playground Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I am slammed like a basketballI will get pics. But in short they are selling exact well as close at they can make counterfits.It says 3 kings it thats label etc... Yopu guys will have to see this later today.QUOTE (mushrat @ Mar 10 2008, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So dreamz and potion are passing thermselves off as SB? or they are merely trying to compete with them? I'm not sur ei understand the connection. As for the fake 3 kings, were they in a 3 king box or did they say something else?I'm certainly no fan of counterfeiting goods, but competition is another thing..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckb21 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 whatup, i couldnt help signin up n commentin to all yall hooka smokers when i heard da talk bout potion shisha. i been smokin potions 4 da past month n its pretty good stuff so far tried 6 flavors, gotta try minty lemon n turkish delight. i bought it from differnt shops n none tried to sell as SB. no disrespect to SB its also good.ay neil, what potion flavor did u not like?cb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I was boycotting potion from the moment I read the names of their flavours...Peachy Peach? Fruits Ahoy? Soft Apricot?I can't tell if I'm supposed to smoke the 'baccy or make love to it. I mean Jesus fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (chuckb21 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whatup, i couldnt help signin up n commentin to all yall hooka smokers when i heard da talk bout potion shisha. i been smokin potions 4 da past month n its pretty good stuff so far tried 6 flavors, gotta try minty lemon n turkish delight. i bought it from differnt shops n none tried to sell as SB. no disrespect to SB its also good.ay neil, what potion flavor did u not like?cbHow many times a day do you need watering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Mar 10 2008, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (chuckb21 @ Mar 10 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>whatup, i couldnt help signin up n commentin to all yall hooka smokers when i heard da talk bout potion shisha. i been smokin potions 4 da past month n its pretty good stuff so far tried 6 flavors, gotta try minty lemon n turkish delight. i bought it from differnt shops n none tried to sell as SB. no disrespect to SB its also good.ay neil, what potion flavor did u not like?cbHow many times a day do you need watering?+1 lolNeal, can you clarify, what is the rip off of starbuzz? was there actually a brand named starbuzz there or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Not sure I can just jump on him and bust his balls We'll see whatelse he posts. Unless Mushrats wants to smack him JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchell8621 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 There's no reason to bust his balls...let him post, we'll see what happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoresidejake Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 wow... this should get interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 (edited) Let's all be real here, we all know Neil is only doing this to undermine Tarik's business! It's like the Ohio Democratic Primary ALL OVER AGAIN!!!Just kidding. Let him post and we'll see what this is about. Edited March 10, 2008 by Bulldog_916 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinkyfisherman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 thats crazy at least i buy all my stuff from HS and a place down the street that has the real deal cuz i've compared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinthecity Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I'm so confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeshua_cxc Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Yeah me too. And whose balls are gonna get busted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speel Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 To be honest I would buy knock offs if and only if I knew it was up to quality w/ its original product. I live in nyc and a lot of people here thrive on counterfeit items (dvds, music, bags for women, shoes, cologne, etc). I personally rather pay 5 bucks for a cologne that smells the same as that 50$ cologne. Its called competition which is a GOOD thing. But then when you have shitty counterfeits thats when they cross the line, for instance thoes Chinese made hookahs. 90% of them are made out of cheap shitty material and end up rusting. But in the end, I see where that guy is coming from selling counterfeits , if its as good as 3 kings and starbuzz why not buy it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 its about taking the name. its like a vendor out there selling normal ejyptians and calling them KM's. imagine how quickly that vendor would get a bad rap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speel Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (Canon @ Mar 10 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its about taking the name. its like a vendor out there selling normal ejyptians and calling them KM's. imagine how quickly that vendor would get a bad rap.KMs have a name stamp on them dont they? But mislabeling somthing and creating somthing of quality under a different name is 2 different things, starbuzz is starbuzz but if i create the same tobacco and sell it at a fraction and name it starfuzz who wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeshua_cxc Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (speel @ Mar 10 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>To be honest I would buy knock offs if and only if I knew it was up to quality w/ its original product. I live in nyc and a lot of people here thrive on counterfeit items (dvds, music, bags for women, shoes, cologne, etc). I personally rather pay 5 bucks for a cologne that smells the same as that 50$ cologne. Its called competition which is a GOOD thing. But then when you have shitty counterfeits thats when they cross the line, for instance thoes Chinese made hookahs. 90% of them are made out of cheap shitty material and end up rusting. But in the end, I see where that guy is coming from selling counterfeits , if its as good as 3 kings and starbuzz why not buy it?No that is not called competition! Competition is when you try to meet your customers needs in a way that is superior to your competitors so that they choose your product over the other guys. Selling knockoffs is fraudulent and deceitful! So instead of serving your customers by providing a superior service or product your screwing them over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeshua_cxc Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (speel @ Mar 10 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Canon @ Mar 10 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its about taking the name. its like a vendor out there selling normal ejyptians and calling them KM's. imagine how quickly that vendor would get a bad rap.KMs have a name stamp on them dont they? But mislabeling somthing and creating somthing of quality under a different name is 2 different things, starbuzz is starbuzz but if i create the same tobacco and sell it at a fraction and name it starfuzz who wins?Whether or not I agree or disagree with the statement you just made isn't the issue. He said imgaine if they're selling them as "KM's" NOT "KN's." They are knowingly trying to dupe the customer into buying a product that they believe to be the real thing. SO it would be like somebody selling fake Starbuzz as "Starbuzz" NOT "Starfuzz."And if I'm not mistaken according to the report from Hookah Stop the knock off 3Ks look identical and are made to convince people that they are real 3Ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesh2 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 QUOTE (speel @ Mar 10 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Canon @ Mar 10 2008, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>its about taking the name. its like a vendor out there selling normal ejyptians and calling them KM's. imagine how quickly that vendor would get a bad rap.KMs have a name stamp on them dont they? But mislabeling somthing and creating somthing of quality under a different name is 2 different things, starbuzz is starbuzz but if i create the same tobacco and sell it at a fraction and name it starfuzz who wins? Wow I'm sorry but i think you are missing the pointthe box/can states it is starbuzz/3k. the chances of them having the exact same product with he same quality are slim to none. im sorry but a consumer deserves to be told the truth. no matter how you spin it. it is copyright infringement on the name AND the symbol, and lays false claim to the consume, no this isn't competition, AF to starbuzz is competition, this is wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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