chromecarz00 Posted September 14, 2014 Share Posted September 14, 2014 Hey guys, long time. Anyway I realized I have a little bit of a problem with collecting hookahs - I think I'm somewhere in the region of 20 now lol. My latest addition is this rotator hookah (I've never liked them much, but I've never had it so I figured I would get one anyway). I got this one off of craigslist but it doesn't have a grommet, so if anyone could ID it and/or let me know where to get a grommet, that would be fantastic. I already tried DIY with RTV but it didn't make a good seal. It has 4 hose ports, just took most off for cleaning/sealing holes. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I've got no clue where it could be from, can you snap some shots of it separate from the vase to see what kind of gasket we might be looking for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 I kiiiind of want to say it's chinese, but only because it's a bastardization of a few different styles all on one pipe. The top looks egyptian, then about halfway down it switches to swirl, which is pretty syrian, and those screw on ports look like the ones on my marble syrian 3-hose, however, the stamping or whatever on the heart of the pipe looks super cheap. That ringed style on the lower part of the heart doesn't look like anything I've seen. I don't have a clue, this pipe is all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 It's kinda strange yeah, that's why I wanna see it opened up :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 probably have to shoot some pics of the inside under the hose port/purge. To me looks like some Magdy Zaidan or generic Egyptian rotator. I think H-S has some grommets for those? http://www.hookah-shisha.com/p-2064-rotator-rotating-spinning-hookah-grommet-replacement.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromecarz00 Posted September 17, 2014 Author Share Posted September 17, 2014 Hey guys, thanks for the responses. See some pics here: [URL=http://imgur.com/2hmMuDk][/URL] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Pavo21 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 i say cheap Chinese or generic Egypitain rotate but definitely cheap, but if it smokes who cares!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromecarz00 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 So none of those grommets fit exactly - the glass width is 4". Any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Uhhhh, damp paper towel? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Damp paper towels wrapped around and cross your fingers yeah :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 How much are those grommets? Just order the next size up and the next size down. Worst case scenario you can cut the smaller ones slightly larger to get them to seal. But It's a grommet - it isn't made out of concrete - they'll stretch, you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 What is odd is that is a syrian diffuser on it, no doubt about it. This pipe is such a mish mash that it just has to be chinese, nobody else really does that (except for some of Farida's newer pipes, which are awesome) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 What is odd is that is a syrian diffuser on it, no doubt about it. This pipe is such a mish mash that it just has to be chinese, nobody else really does that (except for some of Farida's newer pipes, which are awesome) I had a small generic Egyptian several years ago that had a plastic diffuser that was idential to that on at the end of the stem. Arabs can make some pretty crazy mish-mashes. If you look at some of KM's stuff in their Egyptian catalogs they have some female stem (for male bowls) pipes and and some that have elements of a syrian style and even some with integrated metal bases, if I remember correctly. From the consturction, it's way too non-chinese than chinese. I've never seen traditionally built rotators and stuff like that that's chinese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bawhee Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 It could just be a no-name Egyptian rotator with all kinds of parts on it, if it smokes ok then it's all good in my book eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromecarz00 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Yeah I have no issue with the brand, but without a grommet I can't even smoke it! The paper towels don't work because it's a screw on - they just keep on moving or getting cut up. I would order the grommets but they're a two part deal, the top part needs to be the right size to not block the hose ports and form a seal. I think I may be able to make the large ones work though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Have you tried using hockey tape? It works much better than you would expect. Just wrap it around until the fit is snug and you're good to go. Don't need to change it very often at all, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromecarz00 Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 Hockey tape? No I haven't - what is it? I've tried using thread sealant and making a RTV grommet. No dice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antouwan Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 yeah hockey tape or athletic tape works decently. DO NOT get the water resistant kind but that kind of athletic fabric tape type stuff is acceptable. I used it on an old lebanese hookah that I could never find a grommet for with acceptable results. maybe something like this: http://www.autozone.com/autozone/accessories/Fel-Pro-10-x-26-x-1-8-in-cork-and-rubber-gasket-material-sheet/_/N-25w7?itemIdentifier=67680_0_0_ No idea how that shit works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deprekate Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 It's probably syrian (as long as the stem is solid brass, hard to tell). Each of the segments of the stem screw together (but have probably been welded with the downstem). The top tray rest is standard syrian snap on, cheaper since its hollow. The section below that is octagonal thickdisc, which I have a few solid brass Syrians with. Below that the thin disc, never seen before. The next pear is pretty standard syrian. Though they look less etched/detailed than the nawras I have with these sections. The screw on hose ports are typical Syrian too. Your best bet for sealing it would be two different methods. You can buy a rubber mat and cut out a giant ring that fit into the heart/ lid section, and doesn't block the hose ports. You can also buy silicone sealant/caulk and put an even bead in the top rim of the glass. Both of these methods assume the vase rim touched the lid. If it doesn't it's probably because the bottom edge of the lid hits the bulge of the glass. If this is the case put a bead of silicone sealant/caulk around the inside bottom edge of the lid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookah-burgar Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) The pipe is probably a Syrian made in Egypt... Yes, the bottle is from a typical Egyptian rotator, but everything else seems typically Syrian. Now, I spent las Sunday afternoon (12th October 2014) in the company of Julyano Ercin, the owner of El Nefes, who also distributes (as a wholesaler) Farida, Khalil Mamoon and some Syrian pipes, and has visited Egypt recently. He told me that a number of craftmen fled Syria and are now working in Egypt and, as a result, you find an increasing number of Syrian designs among Egyptian made pipes, these days... That could be an explanation... As for the grommets, you should be able to find special grommets for Egyptian rotators... Otherwise, try to use some kind of tape. Edited October 14, 2014 by Hookah-burgar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted October 15, 2014 Share Posted October 15, 2014 ^^ Interesting point, I hadn't really thought about that, but it definitely makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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