mushrat Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 So, soem of you may recall I was one of the first ones on the forum to post about the possible problems with exotica coal. I was contacted by Gabriel to explain the whole leaking container saga. He said, since I ordered 8 CASES he's send me 3 quick replacements and I should let him know how many other bad batches I got. He sent 2 replacement cases. I contacted him yesterday after finally getting to my unused cases and pulling out a box from each to test. I have atleast 3 more bad cases left, one thats questionable out of my original 8 case shipment.So he contacts me back sayign since he was ripped off by more people claiming to have bad coals than cases that were actually sent out, he's going to send me 1 more case in the near future and that's it.Now, I'm not like most of you home users who got a box or two, i bought 8 cases, 10 per case, 80 boxes, and almost all of them were damaged. Dry, crumbly, smelled terrible. So now, for trusting his product I am getting shafted. I spend over $140 in shipping alone to get these coals from AFonline in California and I will NOT be doing that again. I will be switching to NOur coals, which while more expensive have NEVER had a problem like this as far as anyone has reported. They may cost more but the quality is still consistant.Nice job Gabriel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 That's seriously weak. How much did you pay for the coals in total?I'm just curious as to how much he's saving vs. the amount of business he's going to lose from you and from others via word of mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Jan 18 2008, 12:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>That's seriously weak. How much did you pay for the coals in total?I'm just curious as to how much he's saving vs. the amount of business he's going to lose from you and from others via word of mouth.as much as I'd like to, I don't give out wholesale info/pricing. Lets just say the 8 cases I buy every 2 months won't hurt him too badly, but his rep around here may not do too well.And to think i defended his ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 that sucks man. but i thought nour coals where cheaper, i remember paying 6 dollars for a bag from mnhookah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I guess that from an economic viewpoint, the smartest financial decision for him would have been to take at least one business course to learn how to make money... your customers are the ones paying you, hence they are keeping you in business, hence they are your employer and benefactor.If I told my night-job employer that I was only going to play songs at my bar for 5/8ths of the night, I would probably get laughed at, and if I held my ground with conviction I'd be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victim026 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Wow I didn't see this one coming. Hopefully you can get this straighted out Mushy, although I will say that this incident may sway me from ordering Exoticas for the bar I'm in the process of opening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) Sorry for your troubles you had to endure there and for the assholes that were just trying to get a free ride and screwed many over by stating they had bad ones when they didnt...Who wants to smoke a bowl? Edited January 19, 2008 by r1v3th3ad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 (edited) my first box of exoticas so far have burned well and tasted good, but a few have been very brittle in the two days ive tried them i had one shatter while holding a lit one, burning at least 10-15 holes straight through the carpet.hopefully the coconut coals will be a better alternative. Edited January 18, 2008 by Tom16689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Hey mush, where do you order nours from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathuv Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 thats a shame :/ i think only natural charcoal you can trust is bulk coal (if you dont mind the odd one or two exploding once in a while ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texico Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE (mathuv @ Jan 18 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>thats a shame :/ i think only natural charcoal you can trust is bulk coal (if you dont mind the odd one or two exploding once in a while )Yeah but that's the fun part. It's like hookah roulette ( or maybe we could call it Arabic/Middle Eastern Roulette!).But I digress...I think I will still try exoticas once I get my own place, but I'll keep this in mind and only buy one box to start off with. Until then I'm stuck with QL's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Sorry to hear that Mush. Guess I'll have to save some money and buy some coals from my local shop. They actually make their own coals in a triangle shape and are excellent. I'll get some pics up some time.Exoticas: nice, but not worth it. Mush has too much power here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Yeah and i refused free coals because i figured my one box would help them get more to people like mush who need them to run a business.looks like i might have to find another natural that i like...kinda stinks cause i loved those coals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaia.plateau Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 Those coconut ones look pretty sweet, I think I'm going to order some for next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Jan 18 2008, 08:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Those coconut ones look pretty sweet, I think I'm going to order some for next month.you mean the cococha coals? cuz those are great. they come in little cubes that are the perfect size. i got them from a german site: http://www.12moons.de/cococha-cocobrico-na...0040e5ae50a17a5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 One thing that Europe has that I am SO jealous of is Zagoul Ghaleb coals and the Coconut Cube coals. They are just so sweet. My friends actually brought some out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted January 18, 2008 Author Share Posted January 18, 2008 you can get nours at HC i believe, probably a few othe rplaces as well.I'm looking foreward to trying to cocowhatever coals myself. I'd heard about them from a member in australia i think a long time back and been waiting to check them out if they ever hit the states. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 they sell zoghal ghaleb coals too: http://www.12moons.de/natural-charcoal-zog...5eb6bdd21b4ecfdi`m gonna try those after i run out of the coconut coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechAnt Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I'm US . I remember seeing something in the review section about a coconut cube coal coming here very soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camelflage Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE (MechAnt @ Jan 18 2008, 02:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm US . I remember seeing something in the review section about a coconut cube coal coming here very soon.yep its in the coal reviews... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 one thing i noticed is everyone always gets on the same bandwagon. when people were into syrians everyone talked about them and such and bought them, then kms were in the picture, then MZ's, Tangiers, Exoticas, and now nours are in the picture..i wonder how many people will actually stop buying exoticas and start buying nours now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillBrasky Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I actually plan to keep on buying Exoticas. I like them alot and they work. But it's still a bummer for Mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamscott06 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 I should be getting three boxes in the mail soon.. if they suck i'll stop ordering them, if not i'll continue with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 QUOTE (Canon @ Jan 18 2008, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>one thing i noticed is everyone always gets on the same bandwagon. when people were into syrians everyone talked about them and such and bought them, then kms were in the picture, then MZ's, Tangiers, Exoticas, and now nours are in the picture..i wonder how many people will actually stop buying exoticas and start buying nours now..I won't. I like 'em. However I guessed a dodged a bullet with the whole 'bad batch thing' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom1 Posted January 18, 2008 Share Posted January 18, 2008 tommorow ill be getting a bag of smileys coconut coals and the lebanese square ones from hc, ill probally post a review for both when i try them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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