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[quote name='Kofod']Charred is not ashed![/quote]

True, true.  I was just trying to make the point that there is
likely some degree of burning going on -- it's not as though you end up
with perfectly dry, brown, unburnt tobacco at the end.  If I did,
I could turn this into a self-sustaining habit, role the remanants into
cigs, and sell 'em!


And - When we are at the World War thing.

[quote name='Kofod']The figures that came in the UK med. statistics
afterwards is refered to the lung cancer epidemic and the start of the
modern smoking problem in society. It cleared out the drastic
difference between cigarettes and other forms of smoking.[/quote]

Not surprised by that -- given that most people don't inhale (or inhale
as much) with cigars and pipes, one would expect lung ca rates to
increase with increased cig consumption.  An intersting comparison
would be to see if diseases associated with pipes and cigars (mouth and
tongue ca, for instance) changed in any way.

E.G.
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[quote name='NERV']thats actually somewhat surprising, plenty of ppl get a big buzz from the hookah, one wouldve thoguht it was the nicotine, anything else it cud be?[/quote]
i came across an interesting possible answer on shishapipe.net, a British site:
[b][color="#0000ff"]Q: Is Shisha Harmfull?[/color]Technically speaking yes, although only negligibly. The water takes away approximately 90% of the harmful chemicals (excluding THC), and so a pipe contains merely 0.5% nicotine and 0% tar. Also, if its not inhaled, there is no danger of lung cancer.
So maybe THC is present in shisha in small amounts, as nicotine appears in small amounts in marijuana?
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Well, I have a Heba filter for my Hookah (or so it says).  It's a
diffuser but its meant to reduce the amount of nicotine and tar taken
in.  It says that the first time I use it, I should see increased
contamination in the water due to the filter clearing the bad stuff
out. 

And it says:

"The tests done in specialized research centres on one tobacco head
revealed the following results:  46.6 mgs nicotine and 100 mgs tar
per one litre which is double the usual amounts"

I think what it's saying is that their was double the amount of tar in
the water with the filter on than without so it's filtering half of the
bad stuff and depositing it into the water. 

Soo.... I don't know what the figure of 100mgs of tar means unless I can compare it to cigs!
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[quote name='atrombom']i came across an interesting possible answer on shishapipe.net, a British site:
[b][color="#0000ff"]Q: Is Shisha Harmfull?[/color]Technically speaking yes, although only negligibly. The water takes away approximately 90% of the harmful chemicals (excluding THC), and so a pipe contains merely 0.5% nicotine and 0% tar. Also, if its not inhaled, there is no danger of lung cancer.
So maybe THC is present in shisha in small amounts, as nicotine appears in small amounts in marijuana?[/quote]
Trust me, there is no THC in Massel smoking. I'm sure they are letting us know that if we choose to smoke weed in the machine, we can get stoned.
I was smoking my hookah for the last several years in my military career and never "burned" a pee test. I smoked several bowls the weekend before my latest pee test for my contractor job and came out "squeaky clean."
Be good and cheers,
MR Bubble
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My two cents on the health issue....

The numbers 0.5% nicotine and 0.0% tar are misleading.  0.0% is
not zero.  Merely zero to one decimal place.  The tobacco
could contain 0.0999999% tar and the claim of 0.0% tar would be
accurate.  Thusly, one will inhale 0.6 seconds worth of pure tar
per hour.  I don't like misleading numbers like this.  Don't
believe that 0.0 means zero. 

I'm sure that all hookah smoker know that there are risks to your health associated with excessive use. 

That having been said...

I have recently quit smoking cigarettes and can testify to the fact
that smoking hookah tobacco is not as bad for you, or at least doesn't
feel like it's doing as much damage to one's body. 

Just don't be mislead...
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i really doubt they can do that, im sure the 0.0% is just for
consistency, instead of saying 0% tar, 0.5% nicotine, 0.0% is more
consistent. but as the others have said it probably does make some
amoutn of "tar" while it smokes, but it may not cause it cooks not burns
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Mathematically speaking.  0.0 is not zero (not nothing if that
makes sense),  that was my real point.  If the product
contained absolutely no tar then I think that the manufacturer would
put NO TAR in big bold letters along the side, maybe underlined with
some fireworks around it.  Wouldn't that be a better advertisement
than the ambiguous 0.0%? 

Maybe I'm reading too much into this but I know there must still be some tar in shisha tobacco
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What I am trying to say is that 0.0 is only zero to 2 significant
digits, so 0.0 could be a round-down of 0.04 while still being
technically accurate.  Saying that 0.04 (or 0.004 or even 0.0004)
is 0.0 is statistically correct; while being somewhat misleading. 


All I'm saying is don't believe everything you read.  I'm sure
we're all familiar with the ways in which truth and advertising are
sometimes mutually exclusive. 

Anyway lets not beat this horse to death, I'm still a lover of hookah smoking regardless of the amount of tar. 
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this will be my last post about the tar %, i just wanted to put in one
last thought, i highly doubt that they would make any attempt to
mislead about the tar content, if there was any im sure they would have
to list it, plus by the decimal factor they might as well have claims
0% nicotine 0% tar, if they were willing to go into decimals to display
the nicotine content im sure they would have for the tar as well. and
the reason they wouldnt have a big flashy image displaying NO TAR is
because as far as i know, no shisha has tar in it, that would be like a
housing contractor advertising NO ASBESTOSE or a paint company raving
NO LEAD, sure they note it just like the shisha boxes, but they dont
need to make a big deal about it because it's expected
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