The Revolution Is Nigh!

[Bushbr]

When 90% of the wealth is owned by 2% of the people, something is wrong.

When a crime against the poor is ignored but the rich recieve the most attention, something is wrong.

When thousands die because they can not afford healthcare, something is wrong.

The time for silence is over. The system has failed. No amount of voting, or comitees will solve problems. No politician with a podium can make a promise that will solve anything. When the politicians fight amongst themselves instead of worrying about the problems of the people, something must be done, and the common people are no longer cared about by those in the seats of power.The middle class is shrinking. poverty is growing. The goverment is controlled by the buisnesses. There is only one thing that will make the voices of the public heard. This country is in need of another revolution.

No more voting. No more comitees.

Revolution.

[Texico]

huzzah?

[AKammenzind]

Amen

The two enemies of the people are criminals and government, so let us tie the second down with the chains of the constitution so the second will not become the legalized version of the first. Edited April 10, 2008 by AKammenzind

[Bushbr]

We need to stop trying to fix the problems of our enemies in China, Iraq, Korea, and Cuba, and we need to focus on fixing the problems of our own. from east coast to west! From the north to the south. No more Democrats, no more GOP! If we do not fix our own problems we will become the countries that we have invaded.

[Guest lissy]

I remember one's saying, "this country had been directed to wrong directions....."
I forgot who is saying that, Mr.Carter or ........? I missed the old figures coz they had developed America as strong and peaceful country, as a country that can respect others, even they are smaller than US......I dunno what happened now......maybe I am wrong....just a bit sad yet scared..we had to learn many differences and stand on the right side. Yup, criminal and government..two main streams which are so different but .............. not continued

[MechAnt]

Capitalism at its best. Can't stop something as large as America when it's already in motion.

[Bushbr]

Capitalism at its best. Can't stop something as large as America when it's already in motion.

when people think something is unstopable thats when it becomes unstopable.

but it can be stopped. It's a corrupt machine that needs to be taken apart from the inside.
guess who is on the inside. US. the people.
A revolution will bring about the changes that need to be brought.

[r1v3th3ad]

When 90% of the wealth is owned by 2% of the people, something is wrong.

When a crime against the poor is ignored but the rich recieve the most attention, something is wrong.

When thousands die because they can not afford healthcare, something is wrong.

The time for silence is over. The system has failed. No amount of voting, or comitees will solve problems. No politician with a podium can make a promise that will solve anything. When the politicians fight amongst themselves instead of worrying about the problems of the people, something must be done, and the common people are no longer cared about by those in the seats of power.The middle class is shrinking. poverty is growing. The goverment is controlled by the buisnesses. There is only one thing that will make the voices of the public heard. This country is in need of another revolution.

No more voting. No more comitees.

Revolution.

Marxism pretty much stated that we have this, its modern slavery man. One day there will be a revolutionary war against capitolism, then after that will be the end to history. The reason for that is:everywhere would turn to Utopia, you produce your goods for others and they produce for you. There would be no desire to be greater than others, etc... So, nothing significant would happen anymore, thus, no more history to be recorded.

I should bust out my notebook when I get back to my place, Dr. Schroeder(Hist200) lectured on this for roughly two 1 and a half hour classes.

[MechAnt]

The US is not that corrupt. Think about what other countries are going through. Zimbabwe, Colombia, Mexico, and many many more. Our corruption level compared to those countries is like a skinny little kid compared to a big ass UFC fighter. We have no right to bitch about this so called "corruption" that barely exists if at all in this country. Be grateful.

[Bushbr]

Marxism pretty much stated that we have this, its modern slavery man. One day there will be a revolutionary war against capitolism, then after that will be the end to history. The reason for that is:everywhere would turn to Utopia, you produce your goods for others and they produce for you. There would be no desire to be greater than others, etc... So, nothing significant would happen anymore, thus, no more history to be recorded.

I should bust out my notebook when I get back to my place, Dr. Schroeder(Hist200) lectured on this for roughly two 1 and a half hour classes.

i have read Marx many times and greatly agree with him and his ideas. i don't know if the universal utopia will actually happen. the way he says it makes it sound more like he is trying to prophecy than to do a political theory, but it would be nice. any way you slice it, you revolution will happen, and the longer it takes, the more violent and destructive its going to be. rubber band effect.

[Bushbr]

The US is not that corrupt. Think about what other countries are going through. Zimbabwe, Colombia, Mexico, and many many more. Our corruption level compared to those countries is like a skinny little kid compared to a big ass UFC fighter. We have no right to bitch about this so called "corruption" that barely exists if at all in this country. Be grateful.

just because corruption is well hidden does not mean it isn't there.

we can only see everything in colombia and mexico and such so well because they are in a further state of revolution. we are at the begining of the tide. the waves are just now starting to rise. the revolution will come.

[r1v3th3ad]

there was once Utopia, I'm sure it will return

[ryno]

I agree 100% The US needs to focus on ITS OWN problems and not others. Also, now is the time for another counterculture revolution of the 60s, but lets let this one succeed!!

[Bushbr]

I agree 100% The US needs to focus on ITS OWN problems and not others. Also, now is the time for another counterculture revolution of the 60s, but lets let this one succeed!!

the reason the 60's failed is because they were all on nht and were complaining about the government for the sake of complaining. but now there are problems that NEED to be resolved. Protests havn't worked. Voting hasn't worked. Protests and voting and elections and debates, those things are whispers. WE as a people need to SHOUT!

[AKammenzind]

I agree 100% The US needs to focus on ITS OWN problems and not others. Also, now is the time for another counterculture revolution of the 60s, but lets let this one succeed!!

the reason the 60's failed is because they were all on nht and were complaining about the government for the sake of complaining. but now there are problems that NEED to be resolved. Protests havn't worked. Voting hasn't worked. Protests and voting and elections and debates, those things are whispers. WE as a people need to SHOUT!

And when shouting fails, we'll need to shoot.

[Guest lissy]

I agree 100% The US needs to focus on ITS OWN problems and not others. Also, now is the time for another counterculture revolution of the 60s, but lets let this one succeed!!

the reason the 60's failed is because they were all on nht and were complaining about the government for the sake of complaining. but now there are problems that NEED to be resolved. Protests havn't worked. Voting hasn't worked. Protests and voting and elections and debates, those things are whispers. WE as a people need to SHOUT!

And when shouting fails, we'll need to shoot.

no more shoot plz

[Bushbr]

I agree 100% The US needs to focus on ITS OWN problems and not others. Also, now is the time for another counterculture revolution of the 60s, but lets let this one succeed!!

the reason the 60's failed is because they were all on nht and were complaining about the government for the sake of complaining. but now there are problems that NEED to be resolved. Protests havn't worked. Voting hasn't worked. Protests and voting and elections and debates, those things are whispers. WE as a people need to SHOUT!

And when shouting fails, we'll need to shoot.

we need to convince the people to shout first. the goverment has brainwashed them and telling them that voting works, comitees help. but they dont. the people have no power. voting does nothing. comitees distract. and it is only a matter of time untill people realize this. and when they do, they will stop shuffling their feet. they will raise their eyes to the sky, they will see the fallen towers, they will see the lies, the coruption, and the people will rise with one voice, and we will shout, and we will be heard.

[r1v3th3ad]

and this damned election....I'm forced to vote Clinton or Obama
Fuck that

I'm gonna write in Ron Paul since I TECHNICALLY CAN'T VOTE THAT TICKET...fuck

Just got my absentee ballot in the mail yesterday

oops, caps button and too lazy to retype...o well, good spot for it anyway

[Bushbr]

and this damned election....I'm forced to vote Clinton or Obama
Fuck that

I'm gonna write in Ron Paul since I TECHNICALLY CAN'T VOTE THAT TICKET...fuck

Just got my absentee ballot in the mail yesterday

oops, caps button and too lazy to retype...o well, good spot for it anyway

your assuming that you have to vote.
voting only perpetuates the problem

[r1v3th3ad]

I prefer to vote in general...if I have to, I'll try to figure out which is the lesser of the evils, but thats a tough call.

I was raised to vote...my dad had been in council since I was 7 or so, up until a few years ago. I missed voting in an election, sure enough, he lost by two votes...mine could have made a difference(speaking of, I couldn't believe it, I never heard of that happening before then)

[gaia.plateau]

Someone has been listening to Jesse Ventura.

Capitalism at its best. Can't stop something as large as America when it's already in motion.

Now that's just nonsense. Roman empire. British empire. Russian autocracy. Etc. Etc.

we can only see everything in colombia and mexico and such so well because they are in a further state of revolution. we are at the begining of the tide. the waves are just now starting to rise. the revolution will come.

You realize that you guys just had a revolution a couple hundred years ago, hey? Didn't take you long to fuck that up

But no, I wouldn't call this thread unreasonable. The US government may not be overtly corrupt, aside from a good portion of its members having large amounts of stock in oil corporations that they serve like obedient dogs by sacrificing their country's soldiers and reputation to establish presence in oil-rich countries again and again... and in pharmaceutical corporations that they serve like obedient dogs by creating a culture of chronic sickness with no healthcare so that the people must sell their children to afford medicine... but yeah, it's certainly repressive.

What I love are the people who praise the constitution endlessly, worshipping at the altar of the fathers day in and day out, yet have no idea what the constitution means. It's great because nine times out of ten these are the same people supporting the US government and who will continue to support them no matter what they do, as long as they can keep eating their "freedom fries". In ten years, to compensate for all the losses of freedom, you guys are going to have "freedom" everything.

You'll wake up in the morning, scan your ID card to let your government know where you got out of bed, you'll brush your teeth with "freedom paste" and take a "freedom shower" while three "freedom cameras" watch you and your family to make sure you aren't criticizing the empire, eat your "freedom-Os" and milk while you watch the chancellor's morning national address on the "freedom-vision set", before you pack your "freedom bag" and take the "freedom bus" to the reducation centre to continue the previous day's lesson on how the government is the only thing protecting you from certain death by an ambiguous, outside threat. Sorry that kind of got out of hand, it was funny to write.

Where was I? Oh, yeah. The yokels brandishing six rifles for shooting possums, keeping their ammo dear and close to their heart because the founding fathers wrote it in the constitution that they should be able to. The right to bear arms isn't for rednecks to shoot possums and each other, it isn't for fatcat white guys to cheer Charleston Heston (RIP) with their pistols raised high in the air, it's for revolutionary purposes, to revolt if the US government became oppressive.

The founding fathers weren't Churchills and Reagans, they were Guevaras and Lenins. Edited April 10, 2008 by gaia.plateau

[Bushbr]

The founding fathers weren't Churchills and Reagans, they were Guevaras and Lenins.

Amen!! +10000

George Washington, Ben Franklin, James Madison were all revoluionaries. They were traitors to the crown! They stood up against a corrupt and tyranicle government. They knew that the government that controlled them was abusing it's power. Thats what we should do. If Washington and Jefferson saw the country as it is right now, they would take the same stand that i am.

America was founded on rebellion, revolution, and high treason. Time to bring back the TRUE American principles.

[erufiku]

Your thread did indeed make me chuckle.
Revolution. In the US. Good one.

Now, I would like you to elaborate what you mean by revolution. Taking guns and lynching everyone who had anything to do with the current government - wrong. Changing the way people think (ie. making them politically conscious) - good start. Unfortunately the latter is impossible due to the fact that an average citizen is as intelligent as an eggplant. So, you get guns, bring down the government, and then what? After the presidential palace is burnt down and the revolutionary high-fives are taken care of, there is a country that needs to be managed. Which is a lot harder than killing people and burning stuff down. I'd say this is why SA is a perfect example of why revolutions are ineffective, because they're outcome is either a shoddy new government that cannot run the country effectively, or a full-blown dictatorship (ala Fidel Castro). Both cause dissatisfaction, and lay the pavement for yet another revolution. It's a vicious cycle. Although SA is a bit of an exception because the US has always been in the back, doing everything it can to weaken it's position.

As much as I admire your enthusiasm, you need more than a HIST200 course to come up with a viable plan for socio-political change. Also, you posting this 'viva la revolucion' thread on a hookah forum seems too much like venting, as opposed to acting to actually make any change possible.

And on a separate note, encouraging people not to vote is one of the stupidest pieces of advice that I've recently heard. Yeah, go ahead and let the dumb masses decide your future. Perfect way of bringing about change.

PS: you might want to do some reading about George Washington. I mean reputable historians' writings that collect dust instead of the fables that young Americans are fed. Edited April 10, 2008 by erufiku

[MechAnt]

Lets all just smoke and chill out

[Texico]

If this could also constitute an excuse for social cleansing, I support the revolution.



I agree with the principle of the matter, but the methods need to be debated upon, IMO. People already ignore shouts, car alarms, etc.