[quote name='ih303' date='25 May 2010 - 09:05 AM' timestamp='1274803504' post='469437']
[quote name='Arcane' date='24 May 2010 - 02:25 PM' timestamp='1274732701' post='469318']
For lounge use, I think AF cocos fit perfectly….personal use, Coconaras.
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I actually always really liked the AF coals. In fact, when we did our own little "coalmageddon" study at the lounge months back, we found them to perform better than CH's, lasting longer and putting off less fumes/ash. But it's been a while since I've tried them, and now I have doubts after reading Stuie's thread. It may not matter to some folks, but I also really like how you can buy AF Coals in loose bulk instead of just a case of smaller boxes - less waste and hassle.
This whole thing frustrates me. We've been promoting John and his coals at our lounge since we took it over. I want those coals to be the best. But when we open three boxes in a row that burn black-red, emit blue flames, smoke like a chimney, and make the bowls taste like rotten eggs, it makes me start to question. I don't blame John since all he's not really involved in the production. It's a consistency and quality control issue.
At the end of the day, I cannot afford to serve bad hookahs at my lounge. Even more, the bad boxes I'm coming across seem to exhibit characteristics of high sulfur content. Burning sulfer creates sulfur dioxide, which can make people sick. And sick customers are not good for business.
Oh, what to do, what to do.
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^This. The box I got before I left town sucked - a lot. I just wrote it off as you guys not having the new new since you get cases. I know that Travis and I compared the ones he got from the lounge and the ones that I had just got from John (this was a couple weeks before school was out) when he reworked them and the the ones I had were far more dense and they burned damn near 100 degrees Celsius hotter - both characteristics that lead to less ash which I enjoy. Also, beings mine were more dense we found mine lasting 10+ minutes longer on top of a bowl.
For personal use I love CCN's and I would love to see them in the lounge with a Derek retail discount? I like the CCN's because they ash less, last longer, et cetera.
Now what I would consider is the cost vs. performance and which ever one wins that battle should take the title of 'Coalmageddon'
How is everything going?