MAKCuMG Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Hey guys, I've been away from the forum for quite a while, but have been smoking dilegently . Recently purchased 3 jars of Fantasia from Hookah-Shisha and am having a bit of an issue. The flavors are just awesome, and taste great (Margarita, Pink Lemonade, & Blueberry), but every single time that I've smoked any one of them (a total of 5-6 times maybe), I've gotten the worst head ache of my life. One time I got so nauseous and sick, that I could not even go to work. The best I can describe it is as a throbing pain in the back of my head, sometimes I can even feel my pulse in my head! My setup is:MYA QTFunnel Bowl w/ glass modDouble foil Two 1 1/2 inch pieces of Exotica coals2-3 rows of small holes around the circumferance of the bowl.Thing is, it smokes great. No harshness, smoke is thick and flavorful. But the head ache is just unbearable. Its so bad that now I'm somewhat afraid to smoke. I've smoked Starbuzz, Fusion, Havana, Nakhla, Al Fakher, Hookah-Hookah, Layalina, I don't know everything escept Tangiers, and have only once had a head ache that bad, but it was due to the Roland quick lights I was using. I tried using 3 kings, but still got the headache. And I always eat a little before and drink during smoking. Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas, or am I just going to have to switch from Fantasia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpw36 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 hmmm are you smoking it for longer periods of time it could be nicotine od also are you eating or drinking anything before or during Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rani Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 QUOTE (MAKCuMG @ Jul 6 2008, 11:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Hey guys, I've been away from the forum for quite a while, but have been smoking dilegently . Recently purchased 3 jars of Fantasia from Hookah-Shisha and am having a bit of an issue. The flavors are just awesome, and taste great (Margarita, Pink Lemonade, & Blueberry), but every single time that I've smoked any one of them (a total of 5-6 times maybe), I've gotten the worst head ache of my life. One time I got so nauseous and sick, that I could not even go to work. The best I can describe it is as a throbing pain in the back of my head, sometimes I can even feel my pulse in my head! My setup is:MYA QTFunnel Bowl w/ glass modDouble foil Two 1 1/2 inch pieces of Exotica coals2-3 rows of small holes around the circumferance of the bowl.Thing is, it smokes great. No harshness, smoke is thick and flavorful. But the head ache is just unbearable. Its so bad that now I'm somewhat afraid to smoke. I've smoked Starbuzz, Fusion, Havana, Nakhla, Al Fakher, Hookah-Hookah, Layalina, I don't know everything escept Tangiers, and have only once had a head ache that bad, but it was due to the Roland quick lights I was using. I tried using 3 kings, but still got the headache. And I always eat a little before and drink during smoking. Has anyone else had this problem? Any ideas, or am I just going to have to switch from Fantasia?Hate to tell you but the headache accompanied by hearing your pulse in your head is supposed to mean your blood pressure is spiking way up. Something in the Fantasia may be triggering it, or the smoking itself and you just happened to get hit with it while smoking Fantasia. You could test it by smoking another brand and then the next day taking a very small hit off Fantasia and see if anything develops. On the other hand if what I've heard is true, that the pulse pounding headache means your blood pressure is dangerously high, my suggestion is check with a doctor before continuing to smoke. And if you go see a doctor, take your tobacco with you so he/she can read the labels. Fantasia may have a unique additive that has that effect but until your doctor reads the labels, you won't know for certain.'Rani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Perhaps it is caused by a lack of oxygen maybe you should try bigger holes so when you pull it isn't hard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasHookah Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 You should definitely have this problem checked out by a doctor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKCuMG Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) Yeah guys, you are right about it being the blood pressure. I checked it a couple of times when I got the head ache, and its was higher than whats normal for me. Thing is, I am 20 years old! I am very athletic, eat rather well, and don't even smoke that often. So I doubt I have a chronic BP problem. Its usually about 118-12/72-68, but when I had the headaches, it was like 136/87 or something. Which isnt DANGEROUSLY high, but higher than usual for me. When I smoke Nakhla in a local hookah bar, I get no headache.Edit: Just checked it right now, and its 114/63, a little low but I think its atmospheric related. Edited July 6, 2008 by MAKCuMG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3oomerang Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 try these suggestions:-dont be hungry before you smoke-i tend to get headaches if i drink more than 3 beers while smoking hookah-make sure youre properly hydrated-try not to smoke in 100 degree weather-clean your hookah really well-make sure airflow and your pull arent restricted like hookah hippie said-dont double foil (the foil is the worst part of the hookah in my opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKCuMG Posted July 6, 2008 Author Share Posted July 6, 2008 QUOTE (j3oomerang @ Jul 6 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>try these suggestions:-dont be hungry before you smoke-i tend to get headaches if i drink more than 3 beers while smoking hookah-make sure youre properly hydrated-try not to smoke in 100 degree weather-clean your hookah really well-make sure airflow and your pull arent restricted like hookah hippie said-dont double foil (the foil is the worst part of the hookah in my opinion)hmmm, I do eat, and def stay hydrated. Don't usually mix alcohol and hookah, and don't smoke in hot weather. I clean the hookah well and I've been double foiling for years, never heard of it being bad. As far as I know, hookah charcoal does not burn hot enough to make the aluminum volatile. I was also under the impression that water will filter out alumium ions even if they were to theoretically be in the smoke. Sigh, I just want to blame Fantasia for some reason. Even though it tastes SOOOO good. First time I smoked it, I got a headache after like 2 bowls. Second time, it was after 1 bowl. Third time, it was after like half a bowl. And last time, I got a hint of a head ache after 10-15 pulls. Now, when I come next to my hookah, I can almost feel a headache come on LOL. This is so pathetic.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 Sorry I cant assist you. I dont make 30 bucks an hour to go and buy that stuff..what was it called?? oh right, fantasia...But get checked out and make sure all is safe..dont take chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobosap Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry I cant assist you. I dont make 30 bucks an hour to go and buy that stuff....And how many hookahs do you own again? Edited July 6, 2008 by bobosap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 QUOTE (bobosap @ Jul 6 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry I cant assist you. I dont make 30 bucks an hour to go and buy that stuff....And how many hookahs do you own again?Yeah you can buy hookahs for about the same price as some of that tobacco and new hookahs are neater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKCuMG Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Smoked a bowl of Mojito Starbuzz today at a friends house and felt fine. Its gotta be the tobacco. Unless its the batch of Exoticas I got, since I did get them in one package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNH Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Might be the exoticas... I smoked Fantasia a lot in the past month.. Never had any symptoms.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j3oomerang Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 crazy how a bad batch of either exoticas or fantasia can cause bad headaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vin13 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 Never had symptoms that I would attribute to Fantasia specifically, most of my headaches come from not drinking enough water or just going overboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalutika Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 It sounds to me like you are getting kicked in the teeth by nicotine. If I do not pac myself I get exactly the same effects. It's your heart rate and blood pressure spiking.Just pace yourself and accept that you are probably a little more sensitive to nicotine than you would like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 QUOTE (bobosap @ Jul 6 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry I cant assist you. I dont make 30 bucks an hour to go and buy that stuff....And how many hookahs do you own again?QUOTE (hookah hippie @ Jul 6 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (bobosap @ Jul 6 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jul 6 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Sorry I cant assist you. I dont make 30 bucks an hour to go and buy that stuff....And how many hookahs do you own again?Yeah you can buy hookahs for about the same price as some of that tobacco and new hookahs are neaterThere you go.and lol, a HOOKAH does not 'run out'. Tobacco WILL run out. I can spend 50 bucks and get a nice Hookah which I will use for years or spend 25 bucks and get a flavor that will last less than 2 weeks. I get my Hookahs for almost half the price. Give me Fantasia for about half of its price and I might start smoking it. Its just the concept of it costing too much compared to other great shisha out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voski Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 My samples of fantasia also gave me headaches after a while. So does Nakhla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I get this too with Fantasia.I can't stomach the damn stuff. Makes me sick to my stomach. Smoking food colouring probably does not help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuburbanSmoker Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I get the same thing. Started getting really bad so i went to the doctor and they said it was something to do with my blood preasure being really high and blood sugar really low (i guess it was one step away from fainting?). said to eat something 30 minutes before i smoke that has simple sugars that are easy to digest. toast with jam, bannana and penut butter, that sort of thing and it helped mine go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 I know several people that have the same problem but they stay away from fantasia now. They also react in the same way to several other brands, like SB and Layalina...me personally... I think it's the damn red dye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAKCuMG Posted July 7, 2008 Author Share Posted July 7, 2008 Good to see I am not alone. I was looking for a tasty brand that was not as expensive as Starbuzz. I guess its back to Fusion for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted July 7, 2008 Share Posted July 7, 2008 That throbbing in the back of your head can be a restriction of blood vessels due to the nicotine.Weird that it only happens with Fantasia though, I get it when I smoke a big cigar.-QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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