QUOTE (mushrat @ Jan 4 2008, 12:20 PM) ok, my personal beef. Soex hides their main ingredient by writing it in PIG LATIN on the carton. This points to a less than honest approach and looks like they are hiding something. I don't trust companies that use stupid tricks to hide facts. The fact is that it's straight cellulose. Which is why if you get any taste at all, it dies in about 15-20 minutes and you are stuck with a hookah that tastes like you are smoking wood chips. Which Sugar cane bagessy essentially is. Second, if I remember correctly, the ingredients are sugar cane bagessy, molasses, glycerine and flavouring. Where the heck is the "herbs" in that??? Sugar cane fiber is heardly Herbal, heck, tobacco is actually considered an "herb" more that sugar cane ever will be, so then you add the molasses, glycerine and antificial flavour. I don't recall any herbs listed here. I'd be happy to hear a clarification on this one from the source. I do remember trying 2 samples ent by a guy on here a long time ago claiming to be the sole US importer. You guys much switch up frequently. So if you want "truth" about soex, how about printing the truth in plain english on the box. Hardly a trustworthy start. My .02 Mushstroyed! And agreed.