NERV Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 is epoxy strong enough to handle the heat from a bowl without releasing any nasty chenicals? i was thinking since i cant find a tall bow like i had i might buy 2 regular bowls and cut the top off of one and epoxy it to the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 NERV, I like your idea but I have to say I dont know how safe that would be. I dont htink the epoxy could handle the heat, and could melt in your bowl getting on your tobacco, and you would be inhaling the vapors from the epoxy. So I suggest you research epoxy and expoxy based resins before you try this. ANd if you find that epoxy CAN handle the heat and when set it isnt harmful, then I guess it will be ok. But Dont try it untill you researched epoxy based resins. Dont want you getting sick from trying something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Hummm??? I wonder if you can make your own??? There are tons of Pottery places poping up where you make your own mugs/plates/bowls, you paint it and they have a kiln<sp?>(Big Hot oven thing) to put it in. Even the mall by me has a place like that in it. I wonder if you can go to one of those places and MAKE YOUR OWN?? Then you would really have a one of a kind, and while you were at it make a couple. Just a thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 8, 2004 Author Share Posted November 8, 2004 ive never heard of one of those pottery places, if there was one near here id try it but there isnt one that i know of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhaas68865 Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 What type of bowl do you have and how tall are you trying to make it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 9, 2004 Author Share Posted November 9, 2004 it would be a narrow lebalense bowl that i would try to be maing about an inch deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_T Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 i would go with Craigs idea and try to make one. you could get clay somewhere and if you have to you could probably fire it yourself. that would probably be your best bet to make exactly what you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 how many degrees do you need to fire clay? i thought you needed alot of heat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Bubble Posted November 10, 2004 Share Posted November 10, 2004 Where are you out of Nerve? Know anybody in college? What about someone in the military? Those are both places where they have a craft shop that may have that kind of stuff. MR Bubble Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 10, 2004 Author Share Posted November 10, 2004 dont think my college has a kiln Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_T Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 i really think my highschool ceramics teacher fired potsand stuff in a regular fire, i wasn't there much so i could be totally wrong with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCulture Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Yeah most universities have a kiln, my old GF had lots of fun there. She paid a flat fee and went to town making some things. Sometimes you can also find a potter's collective or some other organization. Regarding fire, the native Americans used fire and coals, not ovens or kilns to fire their pots. I studied pottery for a semester of native American pottery works 900-1600 AD. Corrugated, black on red, polychrome, Kidder, Mera..... However I didn't do any fire pottery myself. ..... In other news, I've just moved to a new place and I'm still in the process, that's why y'all haven't heard from me for a while, but I'm back! Will read and respond to relevant posts when I have time. My site needs updating, I have to answer emails as well. And my computer table broke so I have to fix that as well! --Reiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCulture Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 Oh yeah and regarding epoxy, it hardens very well and can handle a lot of things. I would trust it over any glues any day. It gets hard as a rock! If you start tasting funky chemicals I would stop though! Should be OK since you're not using direct heat. It's definitely safe lower down the bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff_T Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 HC are you still in Az? Phoenix or elsewhere? So the firing in a regular fire would work? any tips on doing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 Guys I am a ceramics teacher as well as a ceramics artist and sculpture. Your average clay is fired to 1800-2100 degrees in a kiln. And as far as epoxy goes, while it is a wonderful chemical bonding agent, the key word there is chemical. Even long after it is dry you will taste it in your smoke. And I am pretty sure its not too healthy but you will be sick of the taste long before you are sick from the taste. [b]If anyone would like some information on making custom bowls, or if you would like to hav ea custom bowl made. Contact me, I can hook you up.[/b][b] [/b]and as far as the pottery places you are all talking about go, they are paint your own pottery. you dont actually make anythign there. You glaze it and then they fire it for you in theri kiln. REgualr fire does work sometime but leaves very brittle or most often exploded clay with smokey after tastes. They dont get hot enough to do the first firing unless its a specific wood fire kiln that is a three day process to reach the correct temperature. But I wont go on and on. Just contact me if you want more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HookahCulture Posted November 12, 2004 Share Posted November 12, 2004 [quote name='Sean']Guys I am a ceramics teacher as well as a ceramics artist and sculpture. Your average clay is fired to 1800-2100 degrees in a kiln. [/quote] I yield the floor to Sean! My knowledge of pottery firing is limited and is only from an archaeological point of view as native Americans did fire/coal firing with indigenous clays. Part of doing this though is doing this YOURSELF and being proud of the achievement. Perhaps Sean and I could collaborate on a coal firing tutorial or find one online? Unless Sean wants to do [url="http://www.seansbowls.com/"]www.SeansBowls.com[/url] haha. I have no idea how those would be made initially though...... Jeff T.: Yeah I'm in PHX. Firing in a regular fire wouldn't work, but firing in a thick bed of red hot coals would. One would bury it in the coals, and then recover the pottery after the fire cooled. Some results with infused air, some without, it's a big can of worms here that I won't go into. Like I said, I yield the floor to Sean! --Reiner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 14, 2004 Author Share Posted November 14, 2004 sean i emailed you but havent gotten a response, if i were to send you wuts left otf the bowl would you be able to duplicate it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Instead of epoxy, you should use thermal adhesive. It transfers heat well, probably better than epoxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NERV Posted November 14, 2004 Author Share Posted November 14, 2004 well im not tlaking about transfering im tlaking baout holding up to the heat without releasing chemicals, untill sean contacts me im gonna continue researching the idea, tommorow i will stop by home depot and find out what they have with the highest melting point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Nerv, I have been having problems with the forum lately. DUnno why. I can probably duplicate or at least come very close to the head that you have. email me at hookahstuff@earthlink.net to discuss further. SEan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrailsgalore Posted November 14, 2004 Share Posted November 14, 2004 Thats what thermal adhesive does. What I mean by transferring heat is it wont melt at high temperatures. Which is what you want, you want the adhesive to stay solid at high temperatures and not to release checmicals. Thermal adhesive will do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASUSEAN1 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 i was checking out old threads and thought this was a pretty crazy idea. cut one bowl and make an extension on the other. Last week, i was at a party and i saw a bowl with an extender that slid into the bowl to make it bigger. I couldn't find the owner of the hookah anywhere so I couldnt figure out where he got it. anyone ever see one of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookahmike Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 (edited) NO!Just in case any one else is reading this resurrected thread QUOTE (NERV @ Nov 8 2004, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>is epoxy strong enough to handle the heat from a bowl without releasingany nasty chenicals? i was thinking since i cant find a tall bow like ihad i might buy 2 regular bowls and cut the top off of one and epoxy itto the other Edited March 20, 2007 by hookahmike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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