EvansLight Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 Well being a NASA-head and watching way to much nasa TV, i already knew this was coming. I gotta say i agree with the decision. Even though its been beaten into us at school that there are 9 planets, and pluto is the last one, it has finnaly been decided to clasify pluto as a dwarf planet, finnaly making sense of all the Keiper belt objects.Read More Here:[url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060824/sc_space/breakingnewsplutodemotednolongeraplanet"]http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20060824/sc_...nolongeraplanet[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I'm more excited about the discovery of dark matter rather than beuraucratic nonsense in planet classification. I just don't understand why they bother wasting their time negotiating the definition of a planet. It's really not that important in my mind - it just gives the publishing industry an excuse to shove new textbooks down school's throats. I just think there are better ways to spend time and money."This just in - Pluto demoted to 'dwarf planet' for being a dick to Uranus." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHookah Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 wow. when i heard this news, i literally crapped my pants. this is going to turn the astronomy (and hopefully the astrology) on its head. you're right. the discovery of dark matter is way more significant than what some empty suits think a planet should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuschultz Posted August 24, 2006 Share Posted August 24, 2006 I am now my own planet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted August 24, 2006 Author Share Posted August 24, 2006 the discovery of dark matter really isnt that important. And its not really a discovery. Dark matter has been around for a while, and the theories behind it, and calculations for it have been as well. The only new thing with dark matter is that weve finnaly observed it doing something other than baffling scientists. Still dont know what dark matter is, so i dont feel that its that important just yet.And i admit, Pluto being demoted isnt that grand of a subject, but i find it intresting. Ive been following it for years, with it being a planet, not, being a planet, not. Its just good to see the finnaly closed the case on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 [quote name='EvansLight']the discovery of dark matter really isnt that important. And its not really a discovery. Dark matter has been around for a while, and the theories behind it, and calculations for it have been as well.[/quote] It's the closest thing to proof of it even existing that we have so far. It is a discovery because it's the first time we've observed it's effects directly.Dark matter is exteremly important to a number of theories - and while this discovery doesn't provide direct access to additional research or proofs in and of itself - it's a significant piece of evidence. Most of theoretical physic is based on such evidence. Our observation of space is all that lets us understand the makeup our universe.I'm saving craping my pants for LISA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 [quote name='Claytron'] "This just in - Pluto demoted to 'dwarf planet' for being a dick to Uranus."[/quote] That just made my night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGuy Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Dark matter isn't important, it only makes up like 25% of the universe or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted August 25, 2006 Author Share Posted August 25, 2006 [quote name='MrGuy']Dark matter isn't important, it only makes up like 25% of the universe or something...[/quote] umnm try around 80-90%im not saying dark matter isnt important. Its just its not really all that new, and this new discovery is just some proof to the theories. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Yeah...big deal...no longer a planet, now a new term which we call "dwarf planet". What a waste of time and lifespan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted August 27, 2006 Author Share Posted August 27, 2006 [quote name='Tangiers']Yeah...big deal...no longer a planet, now a new term which we call "dwarf planet". What a waste of time and lifespan.[/quote] hey means theres not gonna be 100s of planets, and also ends the debate allowing them to concentrate on the more important matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Its all a matter of classification. Its so they don't have to send anything out there and they can say "We explored every planet in the solar system". It falls under the bard:"A rose by any other name..." or in other words, call it what you will, it doesn't change the item in question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHookah Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 whatever. i still wanna go there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontmanpb101 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 so what are us scorpios supposed to do about our ruling planet no longer being a planet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHookah Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 [quote name='frontmanpb101']so what are us scorpios supposed to do about our ruling planet no longer being a planet?[/quote] i guess it just proves that all of that astrology stuff is just a bunch of malarkey.as if the position of the stars and planets has any kind of influence on anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 [quote name='DarthHookah']i guess it just proves that all of that astrology stuff is just a bunch of malarkey. as if the position of the stars and planets has any kind of influence on anything.[/quote]I hate to break it to you, but the positions of interstellar bodies do have effect - all things are connected through AT LEAST known physics. Likely not in everyday life - but most certainly in longer spans. Until we have a successful 'theory of everything' then everything is fair game. Even then, the chances of other forces being at work still exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 Exactly, planet or not, it is an influence.I've read about the subject and I am still undecided. I have read old Crowley/Waite stuff that was written before Pluto was discovered. Before that, the 22 major arcana of a tarot deck were distributed very differently including four that were given to the four cardinal elements. So, presumably, astrology only accounts for what is known to the human mind. If astrology is correct, then unfortunately there are planets and stars all over that affect us, yet we don't pay any attention to them. That makes its practice a little suspect, in my way of thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frontmanpb101 Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 so i won't wake up with the temperament of a virgo tomorrow? HOORAY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthHookah Posted August 28, 2006 Share Posted August 28, 2006 ok then, what effect can they possibly have? how can jupiters position possibly determine if i am to come into good fortune? or if i should stay indoors?how can pluto's existence have anything to do with my personality? of course, i do know that somehow the moon's gravitational pull may bring out the animal in some people, but come on. the doctor delivering the baby has more gravitational pull on the infant than mars does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 29, 2006 Share Posted August 29, 2006 Basic physics. All bodies in the universe attract all other bodies. Thats one possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukasa Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 [quote name='EvansLight'] [ umnm try around 80-90% [/quote] My guess is that it makes up 99% of the universe. Theres an awful lot of "space" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claytron Posted August 30, 2006 Share Posted August 30, 2006 Your guess isn't inline with physics. You should check out Michio Kaku's 'Parallel Worlds' if you want an awesome run down of ALMOST the current state of theoretical physics - it was published last year and things are constantly in evolution - but it's pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted August 31, 2006 Share Posted August 31, 2006 I mean, within the bounds of understanding, Pluto was thought to be much larger years ago, since Charon is so large and very close to it. They have discovered two more moons orbiting Pluto, making it a fairly good sized clump of rock, so to speak. Of course, 2003 UB313 is larger than Pluto, but its satellite, puny in comparison with Charon, so Pluto is still the largest clump in the dwarven planets. Also, check out Cedna in you'se spare time, an orbital period of some 12000 Years! List of interesting Stuff to look up:Object Diam(Km) Orbit(Yr) Orbit(in AU) Area2060 Chiron 135 51 14 Centaur10199 Chariklo 275 63 16 Centaur5145 Pholus 185 92 20 CentaurNeptune 49528 165 30 PlanetPluto 2306 248 39 Kuiper Belt 90482 Orcus 1300 247 39 Kuiper Belt Charon 1200 248 39 Kuiper Belt 38083 Rhadamanthus 200 246 39 Kuiper Belt 28978 Ixion 822 249 40 Kuiper Belt 2003 AZ84 700 40 Kuiper Belt38628 Huya 500 250 40 Kuiper Belt 2002 MS4 730 42 Kuiper Belt2003 EL61 1500 285 43 Kuiper Belt 50000 Quaoar 1200 286 43 Kuiper Belt 20000 Varuna 936 283 43 Kuiper Belt 55637 2002 UX25 900 277 43 Kuiper Belt 55636 2002 TX300 800 283 43 Kuiper Belt 15760 1992 QB1 289 44 Kuiper Belt 2005 FY9 1800 310 46 Kuiper Belt55565 2002 AW197 700 327 47 Kuiper Belt 48639 1995 TL8a 350 378 52 Kuiper Belt 48639 1995 TL8b 160 378 52 Kuiper Belt 84522 2002 TC302 1200 408 55 Kuiper Belt 2004 XR190 640 431 57 Kuiper Belt 2003 UB313 2400 557 67.2 Kuiper Belt 15874 1996 TL66 630 755 83 Kuiper Belt Sedna 1500 12000 526 Oort Cloud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizzyGuy Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 So yeah... Pluto is a planet again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted September 1, 2006 Share Posted September 1, 2006 Huh?They reversed their decision? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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