Toxik916 Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 I just noticed that I get a better buzz when I smoke indoors or during warm weather. I dont know why it is but smoking in the cold sucks compared to being in a warm place. Has anyone else experienced this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 for me its the other way around. i normally don`t get a buzz, but one time during the summer i turned the airconditioning up high and the room was freezing cold, and i got a big buzz from some nakhla mint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 Dunno about 'buzz' exactly but it's fairly accepted and documented that climate differences will affect the ability to smoke and get flavourfull smoke.It will also depend on brand as unwashed tobacco is more susceptible to climate problems and humidity.Search for 'Humidity shock' and 'acclimation' on the forums for more info.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 YES IT DOEShigher altitude you are the easier it is to get a buzz. it was tested and proven by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 QUOTE (Canon @ Apr 5 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>YES IT DOEShigher altitude you are the easier it is to get a buzz. it was tested and proven by me.But that's Altitude due. Is Sacarmento high up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 no idea, but Albuquerque is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushbr Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 odly enough, what i have noticed is I get a CRAZY good buzz when its raining!no idea why, mayb sumtin with the humidity, percipitation, i dunno, but the half a dozen times i've smoked while it was raining, ive got kiked in the kiester by my shishaanyone else notice this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 QUOTE (Bushbr @ Apr 5 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>odly enough, what i have noticed is I get a CRAZY good buzz when its raining!no idea why, mayb sumtin with the humidity, percipitation, i dunno, but the half a dozen times i've smoked while it was raining, ive got kiked in the kiester by my shishaanyone else notice this?It raises an interesting point and/or idea bushbr.I do have days when I seem to get an insane kicking from my tobacco, with no apparent reason for it. I can't say i've noticed if it's related to precipitation. However it's quite possible maybe.Interesting Stuff. Could do with Eric for his input on this idea.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubernerd83 Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 QUOTE (Bushbr @ Apr 5 2008, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>odly enough, what i have noticed is I get a CRAZY good buzz when its raining!no idea why, mayb sumtin with the humidity, percipitation, i dunno, but the half a dozen times i've smoked while it was raining, ive got kiked in the kiester by my shishaanyone else notice this?Actually, yes. My best hookah experiences have all been while sitting outside under my screened-in porch while a summer rainstorm was going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralleac Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 (edited) I prefer cold weather. I find anything over 60 degrees to be somewhat irritating, which is funny since I've lived in places like Texas, Georgia, and California for over half of my life. I don't usually get buzzed from hookah, though. It isn't why I smoke in the first place. Tangiers did a bit to me when I had it smoking properly, but not much. Edited April 5, 2008 by Ralleac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryno Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Apr 5 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bushbr @ Apr 5 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>odly enough, what i have noticed is I get a CRAZY good buzz when its raining!no idea why, mayb sumtin with the humidity, percipitation, i dunno, but the half a dozen times i've smoked while it was raining, ive got kiked in the kiester by my shishaanyone else notice this?It raises an interesting point and/or idea bushbr.I do have days when I seem to get an insane kicking from my tobacco, with no apparent reason for it. I can't say i've noticed if it's related to precipitation. However it's quite possible maybe.Interesting Stuff. Could do with Eric for his input on this idea.JDThink it could be High/Low Pressure related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushbr Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 QUOTE (ryno @ Apr 5 2008, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Apr 5 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Bushbr @ Apr 5 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>odly enough, what i have noticed is I get a CRAZY good buzz when its raining!no idea why, mayb sumtin with the humidity, percipitation, i dunno, but the half a dozen times i've smoked while it was raining, ive got kiked in the kiester by my shishaanyone else notice this?It raises an interesting point and/or idea bushbr.I do have days when I seem to get an insane kicking from my tobacco, with no apparent reason for it. I can't say i've noticed if it's related to precipitation. However it's quite possible maybe.Interesting Stuff. Could do with Eric for his input on this idea.JDThink it could be High/Low Pressure related? then i wonder what smoking during a tornado would do.besides be an insanely stupid idea, but i spose if my house and everything i own was about to be destroyed, and i was about to die, i would probbly spend my last hour of life, packing a bowl and going out with a puff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 The three main variables that affect how shisha smokes are:1. Humidity 2. Moisture content of the air.3. How damp it isOK, ok those are the same three things. Temperature plays a part, a smallish one.Temperature itself doesn't effect much, but it does effect the ambient temperature of the water in the jar. Warmer water filters out more (or more nicotine when the water's colder). The real factor is absolute humidity. Relative humidity does have an effect, too. My analogy runs this way. If I said I had a glass that was half full of water, you wouldnt necessarily know how much water I had...in the same sense, if I said I had 2 Oz. of water in my glass, you wouldn't know how full the glass was. Absolute humidity is a measure of exactly how much water is in the air and is measured in g/cc or something along those lines (mass per unit volume). Relative humidity is a calculation of how full the air is of water and is measured in units like % (like 55%, etc.). Shisha establishes an equilibrium with the air's absolute humidity, and shisha's moisture content is proportional to (equal to...????) the air's moisture content (or absolute humidity). If the air mass changes and becomes drier or damper, the tobacco will change too, but more slowlythan the air. The relative humidity is then important, because if it is unfavorable, it will take longer for the tobacco to change and reform its equilibrium. We all know this instinctively because if you get your jacket wet, it will dry out faster if its dry out rather than if its damp. Now the real question is does the moisture content of a perfectly acclimated shisha affect its flavor, smoking characteristics, etc. With washed, high water content shishas...probably not. With low water content ones...Maybe? I still have yet to with any great certainty come up with an hypothesis on this question. There seems to be more variability in how shisha smokes when its warm, but that could easily be explained because warm air is able to hold more moisture than cold air, so the actual amount of moisture will vary more. That is, a glass that holds only 1 0z. of liquid will have less of a range of amounts of liquid in it than a glass that holds 16 oz. If you see my point. Anyways, since a larger "glass" has more variability, that could explain more variability in the results. I definitely find cold, dry weather to have more consistent results (good or bad) than warm weather. We opened up one of my favorite things to bounce back and forth in my head. To the main question, Toxik, if you acclimate your tobacco in the warmth of your home, for instance and then take it outside in the cold to smoke, you will have an immediate and large humidity shock (Very likely, anyhow) since there will be, all other things remaining equal, be less moisture in cold air than there is in warm air. The humidity shock from going to a drier environment is the worse of the two, it makes the flavor stingy, dry and weak. It tends to make the flavor die quicker and the smoke is thinner and hotter. If you store it outside, in the cold, it would probably be better. Weather does tend to change more outside than it does inside, on the other hand. Air conditioning and heating tend to stabilize humidity levels. Some air masses will be locked in to humidity, that is, the amount of moisture in the air doesn't change between the morning and the afternoon and the night, which makes for good smoking and easy acclimation. Some air masses will suck humidity in from other places so that as the day gets warmer, the air will get damper. Watch a weather service and look at the relative humidity (or absolute humidity if they provide it!). A locked air mass will show a falling relative humidity as it warms up (because the same amount of moisture is being put into a progressively larger glass...warm air is a bigger glass than cold air) and then the relative humidity will go up again as it cools off. Fog is a classic sign of a humidity-locked air mass. If there be fog for three days runnin', your smokin' will be fine. Just a few thoughts. Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canon Posted April 5, 2008 Share Posted April 5, 2008 and thats why i dont have to acclimate my tangiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilikemyusername Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 it may be possible that mood and mindset plays a larger factor than anything else. i for instance have noticed when i'm by myself and feel good i tend to get the thickest buzz, as a side note i've noticed that sometimes it only takes a beer and a half to get a fair buzz, and i'm typically happy beforehand, other times 5 or six and im wondering where the alcohol is...sorry, off topic but i do think its mood and mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog_916 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Just to answer JD's question, Sacramento sits at 25 feet of elevation. Elevation shouldnt affect the smoke any. You just have to apply the right heat and pack the bowl right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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