Well, I had one that was mounted inside of a wooden frame that worked. Problem was it would start to burn wood after it was on for more than 10 minutes. It did work at 1.6 amps with 35 guage wire. Forgot how much actual wire I used, but you can figure it out with 1.6 = 120/x. The wire was in 2 grids above the tobacco, this seemed to work better. But now I have moved on to hydrogen boosters for cars, so if any of you are interested in getting some solid gas mileage let me know. QUOTE (mj_b90 @ May 2 2008, 12:46 PM) Wesleypipes, still no word on your trials?