Johnny_D Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 [url="http://www.shisha-world.com/lshop,showdetail,14015,e,1160305857-30723,shisha-world.wasserpfeiffezubehoer.tastypuffflavor,2575,5,Tshowrub--shisha-world.wasserpfeiffezubehoer.tastypuffflavor,.htm"]Click Here![/url] Has anyone of our American Brothers & Sister tried this? The German supplier suggest's that it's an american product? Is it, as i suspect, Glycrin with flavour? Any information great appreciated! JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 cant say i have.... cant say ive even heard of it... cant say id want to try it, but ill send you one to try JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Sounds cool, I would try it haha but maybe its just me. It says you can add it to the water so it sounds the same as if I were to put apple juice or somthing in the base. If you try it let us know how it works out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerorox Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 i tried it, apple. think it's OK, but i don't like chemical stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Well, the flavoring that comes on your tobacco is "chemical stuff" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skimo Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 As its been said many times, if you are worried about your health, smoking isnt for you lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hell, tobacco is chemical stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerorox Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 well, not all shisha brands use chemical flavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Then what is the flavor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 Water is a chemical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAP Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 I have apple and spearmint but haven't tried them yet. Tested them on a cigarette though and you can taste it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aerorox Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 [quote name='Joseph']Then what is the flavor?[/quote] natural flavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 define natural flavors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 when you taste something it is a molecule (or chemical) that is of the correct shape to fit into the receptors on your tounge. Same for smell. And natural flavor doesn';t mean chunks of bannana it means that thr bannana was exposed to various other chemicals to extract the one that cretes the flavor. Shisha is full of chemicals, including glycerol. I doubt that these flavorings in the bottle are differant from the flavors already on the tobacco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvansLight Posted October 8, 2006 Share Posted October 8, 2006 you know toxic waste is natural XD my poop is natural as well, dont mean that i should call it an all natural thing XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 natural does not = safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 at the same time, natural chemicals are often ones that the human body is able to deal with in a more direct way. for example sugar vs. splenda. sugar interacts with the body in a very direct manner, where splenda uses a similar chemical to trick the body into thinking it tastes like sugar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Its doesn't really trick the body, it just fits the sweet receptors. Its all about structure. And when you say sugar, what do you mean? Splenda is a sugar, I believe. There are many sugars, some taste sweet some do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calcartman Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 splenda is sugar. its just chemically modified to not be broken down by the body, therefore it does not provide caloric energy for the body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 i mean glucose which is generally considered the default definition for sugar no?(when used nonscientifically) splenda fits the sweet receptors, the receptors which recognize glucose, but since it isnt quite the same chemical as glucose it "tricks" the body by not being used as glucose would be. It is in essence a fake sugar. maybe a bad example. but think about how much better the body processes natural foods compared to heavily processed foods. how about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 Your body processes splenda just fine. The fast majority of it goes out with the feces, and the tiny amount you absorb through the GI tract goes out with the urine. My only point was, the stuff in this "Tasty Puff" is probably no differant than the stuff on your tobacco already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SanguineSolitude Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 im not denying that. fuck i dont even know what my point was. go for it. and if youre looking for me ill be on the block with my thing cocked possibly sitting on a drop 9. cuz im a rider, yeah, another soul survivor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London786 Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 back to the topic? is this stuff any good? and can I get in anywhere the U.k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhatBeezie Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 This is what I have smoked with weed lol dont think it would work on shisha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonthert Posted October 9, 2006 Share Posted October 9, 2006 [quote name='aerorox']well, not all shisha brands use chemical flavors.[/quote] All flavors are indeed chemicals. There are artificial flavors and natural flavors and then extracts. An extract is what most people associate with a natural flavor.,,,squeezing an orange and getting orange juice. I could take that orange juice and chemically analyze it using chemistry technology. I find that orange juice has components A, B and C. So I am now going to make an orange flavor. There are two classes of chemicals: natural, which means being derived from a natural plant, artificial being made in a chemical plant/lab somewhere. They are identical, in every way. It doesn't matter where they come from. For components A, B or C , they may vary in price, individually, whether natural or artificially derived. The market fluctuates greatly...one day natural A may be enormously cheap, but the price may go up and surpass artificial A. So the origins of each might change over time. So, I find natural A is cheaper than artificial A for B its reversed and for C, they are roughly the same price. I will make my orange flavor with natural A, artificial B and artificial C. The price of artificial flavors tends to vary less than with naturally derived flavors, making artificial C more expensive. It is possible to specify all natural flavors (like Coke...Coke is made of all natural flavors), but the flavorings tend to be more expensive. Citrus flavors due tend to be natural...and cheaper when they are naturally derived. In fact, using natural extracts costs probably 10-100 times as much as using commercially produced flavorings. Artificial rose oil is about $5/lb. Natural rose oil is $5000/lb. So it could be a factor of 1000, as well. Natural extracts are less favorable, because they change seasonally and flavor strength and quality suffer. So, every company that you buy tobacco from sells tobacco with manufactured flavorings in. The only company that purportedly uses all natural extracts runs $150/Kg. If you can find it and that might be lies, too. All these sheesha guys love to talk about how their stuff only contains fruit or natural flavorings...all false. So, in fact all sheesha companies use chemical flavors...otherwise nobody would buy sheesha at $150/Kg. Back to the original question. Those additions to jar water are water based, probably and resemble coffee syrups. Thats what Fumari did market research on. My question is simple. If these flavorings improve the flavor of sheesha, then why weren't they added directly to the sheesha in the first place? Neither answer appeals very much. #1 the flavorings in the syrup are too expensive to put in the sheesha. If they really were appropriate, wouldn't Al buzz Fahkir have put it in there? #2 the add-in flavorings are a waste of money. One of those two conditions must be true...in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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