QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Nov 26 2007, 03:57 PM) How long is a piece of string? I can get nahkla smoking so that it can hide my face. It's gotta be 80% setup and how you get things going. But for 'ease' i would suggest the wetter brands - Tangiers, layalina, fumari, starbuzz ect ect. JD +1! I can thick smoke with the likes of AF and Layalina but I can even get a thicker smoke with Naklha sometimes. It's all about how you set it up depending on each brand.