ShishaFreak Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Be careful and be warned. I recently purchased some CocoNara coals in a 84 box format only to find out that they are fakes. I searched Hookah Forum and I found a posting for a guy named George from a company named Osimex who is supposed to be the OFFICIAL SUPPLIER of Coco-Nara in Canada, well HE ISN'T, This is what I found out when I called Coco-Nara USA, spoke to Kate there and she confirmed to me that they have not made the 84 piece boxed for 3 years now and that the coals were fake. She also told me how to SPOT the fakes. Follow this link to the official Coco-Nara.us website [url="http://www.coco-nara.com/DownloadHere/fakepacks.jpg"]http://www.coco-nara.com/DownloadHere/fakepacks.jpg[/url] The fake coals burn out much faster and are usually crumble very quickly at the slightest touch. You end up throwing away 1 in 4 coals, that's 25% of the box. I just wanna let all the Coco-Nara fans in Canada know to be careful before ordering or purchasing the fake coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShishaFreak Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 Other ways to know if you have fake Coco-Nara's...[list=1] [*]If the box you have received has a matte finish and is not made of good quality materials with a glossy finish, the box is fake. CocoNara uses only thick, good quality boxes for their coals and prints the boxes using a glossy finish. [*]Inside the flap of the top opening of the box, there should be a blue stamp. The stamp could say Lebanon or another location, but as long as there is a stamp on the inside, it is a good sign that you got a real box. CocoNara stamps every box with the country of origin and a serial number to track the date of production. [*]In every box of CocoNara’s, a flyer is included with instructions and such. A fake box, or at least the one I personally received, do not include this flyer. [*]Inside the box, the coals will be wrapped in a plastic bag. Within a fake box of coals, the plastic will be thin and clear. The plastic within a real box of CocoNara’s however is thick and blue. [/list] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuckthatvincekid Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 [quote name='Puddleguy' timestamp='1347646209' post='556383'] Other ways to know if you have fake Coco-Nara's...[list=1] [*]If the box you have received has a matte finish and is not made of good quality materials with a glossy finish, the box is fake. CocoNara uses only thick, good quality boxes for their coals and prints the boxes using a glossy finish. [*]Inside the flap of the top opening of the box, there should be a blue stamp. The stamp could say Lebanon or another location, but as long as there is a stamp on the inside, it is a good sign that you got a real box. CocoNara stamps every box with the country of origin and a serial number to track the date of production. [*]In every box of CocoNara’s, a flyer is included with instructions and such. A fake box, or at least the one I personally received, do not include this flyer. [*]Inside the box, the coals will be wrapped in a plastic bag. Within a fake box of coals, the plastic will be thin and clear. The plastic within a real box of CocoNara’s however is thick and blue. [/list] [/quote] The only one of these that has consistently held true for me is the little pamphlet that comes with the coals. I've had boxes with and without the rest of the counterfeit protection measures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skoozle Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I've never had the blue bag as far as I can remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 hmm..wonder if what you have been getting has been real then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crhiss Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I don't live in Canada but I have never personally gotten a blue bag inside the box. Always a thin clear one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
â€On Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 That link is NOT showing a blue bag. It's showing a clear bag that has had the picture taken under fluorescent lights while the cameras white balance is set to tungsten (it looks like the color temp is around 5k on the "blue" package, normal tungsten/incandescent lighting is around 3k). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chreees Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 [quote name='aeon' timestamp='1347725268' post='556442']That link is NOT showing a blue bag. It's showing a clear bag that has had the picture taken under fluorescent lights while the cameras white balance is set to tungsten (it looks like the color temp is around 5k on the "blue" package, normal tungsten/incandescent lighting is around 3k).[/quote] This man is correct. I've never had fake CCNs before, at least not to my knowledge, but I've also had times when there wasn't a pamphlet inside the box (maybe they just forgot, or they were hella good fakes). Plastic bag has always been clear, and I've never found the box to be suspicious. Tapatalk'd via iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 Last time i heard that fakes were going around people said they were actually better than ccn. *Comments in this post do not necessarily reflect those of Tangiers Tobacco* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gramps Posted September 15, 2012 Share Posted September 15, 2012 I agree. The bags have always been clear thick plastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingpanda Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 lol counterfeit coals what is this world coming to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urloc Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='smokingpanda' timestamp='1347948591' post='556613'] lol counterfeit coals what is this world coming to [/quote] Well, there are fake rice, fake eggs a fake village... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viper151 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 How many coals do the packages ccn offers have? I think the counterfeit have more than what the standard packages ccn offers have e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammoura1 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I always buy my coconara from Osimex. They might be fake but they smoke fine - no complaints here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='smokingpanda' timestamp='1347948591' post='556613'] lol counterfeit coals what is this world coming to [/quote] happens a lot actually. There have been/are a number of 3 kings rip offs out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeypas Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Same here, I've been buying my coals from George for a long time. They work just as well, if not better, than the US coconara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShishaFreak Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 Actually, I do not agree, The Fakes DO NOT Smoke as well nor as long as the original Coco-Naras. I did the test... the originals Smoke longer (about 20% longer) the orginals Don't Break up like the fakes. They also produce much more ash than the originals Also, Coco-Nara.com confirmed to me that George of Osimex does NOT sell original Coco-Nara coals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 could be different batches of the same fakes. I've noticed that with a lot of the finger coals especially, variances in the quality from batch to batch. Exoticas can vary in the extreme. Sometimes you get ones that ash almost pure white and are tasteless and clean, and then there are the off batches ,that have more filler i bet, that come out brown ash and nasty smell with a bit of off taste. The fake coco people are probably buying coals from wherever they can get them the cheapest to put in the fake box. That could explain some people liking the knock offs and some people saying they suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coyote Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 I'm sure there are more than one producer of fake coals... so one fake could be better than another. just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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