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Acclimation Issues With Tangiers By Sonthert

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So, you guys want to pay half as much for Tangiers that is half water? Is that the dealio? smile.gif

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thats not what I'm saying, i was just tossing in my .02 because it seemed as if the thread had gone astray.
You have to admit though, your product is pretty juicy.
unless its not supposed to be, in wich case we may have figured out the dillemma!

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I used a smiley face...that meant I was being less serious. smile.gif

Its oily, not juicy. Glycerine is much thicker than water, more viscous. When the humidity is high, the liquid gets less viscous, as it does when the temperature is higher. The viscosity will change in different conditions, but I would call it gloppy more than juicy...most of the time.

When I post the survey, please complete it privately, don't compare answers with other people. PM me with your answers. Depending on the answers, there will be likely a subsequent survey based on the results of the first one...

Any more people interested and qualified? Going...

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QUOTE (ilikemyusername @ Jun 27 2009, 05:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thats not what I'm saying, i was just tossing in my .02 because it seemed as if the thread had gone astray.
You have to admit though, your product is pretty juicy.
unless its not supposed to be, in wich case we may have figured out the dillemma!



drinks.gif me too

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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Jun 27 2009, 09:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I used a smiley face...that meant I was being less serious. smile.gif

Its oily, not juicy. Glycerine is much thicker than water, more viscous. When the humidity is high, the liquid gets less viscous, as it does when the temperature is higher. The viscosity will change in different conditions, but I would call it gloppy more than juicy...most of the time.

When I post the survey, please complete it privately, don't compare answers with other people. PM me with your answers. Depending on the answers, there will be likely a subsequent survey based on the results of the first one...

Any more people interested and qualified? Going...


You wanted only people from the US, but if you change mind, I will be ready to fill out the questionaire

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I'll put you on the provisional list, too.

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Like jfaltous I'm also in Calgary and I've had little success with it, I'd like see what happens maybe there is a different way to acclimate it here due to Calgary being so dry. On the other hand lucid smokes wonderful, I know it needs no acclimation though haha.

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Mattarios, Familiar Joe, Newjacksm, ih303, Doubon, Antouwon, ilikemyusername, Ralleac, Victim026, jfaltous, Mix Tape, Kaptain Kanel, and pinky as provisional members.

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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Jun 29 2009, 02:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mattarios, Familiar Joe, Newjacksm, ih303, Doubon, Antouwon, ilikemyusername, Ralleac, Victim026, jfaltous, Mix Tape, Kaptain Kanel, and pinky as provisional members.


Im ready, lets do this !

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The questionnaire is in the Mods section, being approved...

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Its like 64 questions long. Do you want to participate, speel?

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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Jun 29 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its like 64 questions long. Do you want to participate, speel?


I would but I haven't tried many flavors and I did have a pretty successful run of horchata from the noir line a while ago. But im really interested in what you have brewing up with this experiment.

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Oh, well thats cool. Glad to see you had some success.

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OK, so, again, don't post your results here, send a PM to Sonthert...respond to the thread when you sent the PM (having completed the questionnaire). If you could do them within the next week, that would be great. Please don;t discuss your answers with other people. These questionnaires will be confidential.

The goal here is to find a common thread (or a lack of common thread) that binds people who have acclimation problems together. Once we find the variable(s), we can get a second questionnaire to further identify it (them) and then hopefully develop a methodology for fixing or eliminating the confounding variable.

Answer each question as fully as possible. If you want to add more detail to clarify the answer you're giving, great. The more relevant details you give, the more it might help. If you don't use incense, a 2 page diatribe of why you don't like incense isn't helpful...try and contain comments to how it relates to the climate/humidity in your house and smoking hookah.

Thank You for you participation. There will be some reward for this.

Eric



Questionnaire
For Acclimation Problems:
Any questions that refer to you or near you are asking in regards to you when you were acclimating Tangiers. So, if you were in your dorm room at college when you couldn’t get Tangiers to acclimate, think of the environment there, not where you are currently.

1. How long have you been Smoking Hookah, in years?
2. How many brands of tobacco have you smoked, including Tangiers?
3. What Tangiers Flavor(s) did you buy/have no success with?
4. Was there anything out of the ordinary about the Tangiers package(s) you received?
5. In general, when you opened the package(s), did the tobacco smell good or bad? If this happened more than once, try to characterize the different times.
6. Did the tobacco ever smell right, as you would have expected it to smell?
If it didn’t smell right, describe the smell, again characterize each time. If possible, including the flavors in question.
7. What brand/nationality/type of Hookah did you try to smoke Tangiers out of?
8. What type of charcoal did you try and use with Tangiers?
9. What month(s) did you try to acclimate Tangiers?
10. What were the general conditions then? Sunny? Snowy? Rainy? Humid? Dry? Windy? If this occurred more than one time, was there one type of weather that predominated?
11. What did you store your Tangiers in? The bag it came in? A wooden box? Plastic containers? Glass? What type of plastic containers? (If possible, refer to the recycling code on the bottom of the plastic container)
12. Did you leave the lids off when you were acclimating, that is open to the air or were they sealed when you were acclimating?
13. Where did you store your Tangiers, inside/outside…where inside? Give a short description of the places you’ve tried to acclimate Tangiers, i.e. the upstairs bathroom, the basement, behind the water heater, the closet in the garage?
14. Do you live in a house, an apartment, a condo, a dorm…where?
15. How close are other dwellings to you?
16. Is there any livestock or large animals near where you tried to acclimate Tangiers?
17. What floor do you live on?
18. What floor did you principally try to acclimate Tangiers?
19. Where do you smoke your hookah in relation to where you acclimate?
20. Do you frequently move the tobacco around when its acclimating?
21. Was your Tangiers storage location near a heat register, fan, air conditioning vent, etc?
22. Was your Tangiers storage area near any appliances, including TVs, computers, blenders, lamps, anything electrical?
23. Do you use candles, incense, or any type of air freshener normally?
24. How close are you to a major body of water? A river, a lake, the ocean, anything? Which one? Are they saline or fresh?
25. Is there a swamp or any other formation near you that has natural decomposition occurring?
26. Are there any dumps or landfills near you?
27. Is there any large scale agriculture near you?
28. Do you have any mold or pest problems near where you tried to acclimate Tangiers?
29. Do you use municipal trash service, a private trash company or burn your trash? If you burn your trash, do you use an open pit, an incinerator or some free-standing container, like a drum?
30. Do you frequently have campfires, bonfires, fires in a fireplace or any other type of fire near or inside the building where you acclimate Tangiers?
31. Are there any stands of trees or bushes near where you tried to acclimate Tangiers?
32. What is the general landscaping around you?
33. How close are you to a major road?
34. Are there any dirt roads near you?
35. Are there any large industrial plants near your house?
36. Are you Near an airport, bus station or other area of mass-conveyance?
37. What is the furniture near your storage location/acclimation area made of?
38. What other materials are near your acclimation area? Leather? Paint? Lemonade? Deodorant? Name everything you can see, hear or smell. It doesn’t matter how small it is.
39. Do you have pets? What kinds? How many? Are there any pets that would be near where you acclimating Tangiers?
40. Is there a swimming pool, Jacuzzi, reflecting pool, fish pond or other artificial body of water anywhere near where you acclimate Tangiers?
41. Do you have central air conditioning/heating?
42. What time of year did you try smoking Tangiers?
43. What time of day did you try smoking Tangiers?
44. Is there a specific time of day that you commonly smoke hookah? If so, when?
45. Was the heating or the air conditioning being used principally when you were trying to acclimate Tangiers?
46. Do you use a humidifier or dehumidifier in your house?
47. Do you have any other form of air processing in your house (Heat pump, ceiling fans, etc.)?
48. Which of these air processing units (including air conditioning, heating, humidifiers, etc.) are programmed and change their set point automatically?
49. Do any of these air processing units get turned on and off during the day (or night)?
50. Does the floor, where you principally acclimate Tangiers have hardwood, carpet, tile, linoleum, etc? Which one?
51. How high are the ceilings where you principally try to acclimate Tangiers?
52. What type of heating/air conditioning system do you have? Radiant? Forced Air?
53. What type of foundation does the building where you tried acclimating Tangiers have?
54. Where do you get the water from for your hookah?
55. Where is the source of this water?
56. Do you smoke cigarettes or cigars? Do you use any illegal substances?
57. Do you use any prescription medications?
58. Are there any cleaning or beauty products stored near where you acclimate Tangiers? Which ones?
59. Do you principally eat at home or eat out?
60. What are your hobbies? Do you use paint or modeling glue? Any other solvents in your house of that nature?
61. Do you have any idea why Tangiers wouldn’t acclimate for you?
62. Do you have any additional thoughts about acclimating Tangiers?

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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Jun 29 2009, 11:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its like 64 questions long. Do you want to participate, speel?


Oh I will!

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Hey! You're not on the list. No freebies for you...too late. You fail. Your success with Tangiers has made you fail. I'm not going to go buy another pack of gum just to send to you. laugh.gif

Thanks for the answers to the questionnaires though. Adding some people who have success is good...it may add contrast to the people who have no success...

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I never got my questionair!


DOH I thought it was PM'ed I didnt read the whole thread. Edited by newjacksm

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QUOTE (Sonthert @ Jul 1 2009, 05:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey! You're not on the list. No freebies for you...too late. You fail. Your success with Tangiers has made you fail. I'm not going to go buy another pack of gum just to send to you. laugh.gif

Thanks for the answers to the questionnaires though. Adding some people who have success is good...it may add contrast to the people who have no success...


Wasn't expecting anything.

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Sent one in as a contrast to those who may not have success.

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I am coding responses even as we speak.

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