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Scalliwag

Scalliwag's Cherokee Herbal Shisha

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I was yacking about finding something to use other than tobacco on one of the threads and that got me thinking about a old buddy of mine that is into native American culture and metaphysics and all sorts of off the wall shit.
I knew native Americans smoked other things besides tobacco including things that are not legal, but most are.
Anyways I get in touch with my ol' hippy friend and tell him what shisha is and I want to substitute something for the tobacco since the flavorings can be added.
He was all excited to tell me so much stuff that I am still sorting through it all but I went with his first suggestion because he knows I have Cherokee in my family and it happened to be his favorite. I couldn't find anything online about it or the Cherokee connection though sad.gif but I trust the guy so I just went shopping for the stuff.
He also had an idea that turned out to be excellent for infusing flavors. He's like an encyclpaedia on this shit. He knows all the tribal ceremonial stuff and the history behind most of it. He warned me about a lot of stuff to stay away from which is always good to know.

Anyways I had already got my pure vegetable glycerine and "other ingredients" for the shisha side so one I got everything home I already had the game plan. The very first test batch was INCREDIBLE!!! BooKoos of flavor and thick smoke. I had got up at 3am which was a little early (I was letting it condition) because I was excited to see what it would taste like. This shit already smelled great which was why I was pumped.
I won't give out the recipe because I may end up making and selling this stuff. smile.gif We'll see.
A little later on I am going to take pics and video and may try and get a forum member or two to swing by the house and try it.
I will say that one of the members that suggested agave nectar to replace was spot on. My buddy has used it a long time it turns out but not in shisha. He is not much on hookahs which seems stange to be. Although he is eager to try this stuff I made with his help.

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Would love to hear some more about it Scalli. What flavor did you make?

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Well done Scalli. I know a lot of people don't smoke hookah because they are turned off by the tobacco element so you might be able to get some converts if this stuff is really that good.

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samples for the forum members perhaps?


what flavors are you working on?

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i too know many herbs that can be used other than sugar cane. i could also make a legal herbal shisha that would give you one hell of a buzz.

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Apperance at HookahStock?

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QUOTE (soldier92 @ Feb 15 2009, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well done Scalli. I know a lot of people don't smoke hookah because they are turned off by the tobacco element so you might be able to get some converts if this stuff is really that good.


That is sorta me. I like smoking obviously but can really do without the nicotine. I just want good flavor and gobs of smoke and get my buzz from my Shinerbock smile.gif


QUOTE (joytron @ Feb 15 2009, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
samples for the forum members perhaps?


what flavors are you working on?


Definately will get take the first 5 peeps that want a sample as long as they'll post honest results. If you don't like it say so, etc.
Flavors, Peach, Sangria Wine for starters. Shinerbock is great as a beer but I think it would suck as a smoke flavor.


QUOTE (Fluffy @ Feb 15 2009, 01:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i too know many herbs that can be used other than sugar cane. i could also make a legal herbal shisha that would give you one hell of a buzz.


My buddy gave me a list of some of those. There was one called "skullcap" and another called "elephant head" that I mainly remember because of the names. The ones that they call "calming herbs" sounded real interesting in very low moderation. I made a vid but I don't have time to edit and post yet. A couple other little items to knock out first. So first 5 volunteers that are stateside. Joytron, I already have you down wink.gif

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ill post a video review on youtube if you want?
or written.
I also feel like you should put stuie on the list. he has smoked everything. its only fair he gets a try at this.

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I'll pay for shipping if I can get a sample, I've always wanted a good herbal but after trying Soex I gave up and just used tobacco.

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Sample for the villager?
You never stop creating do you. Edited by indian_villager

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Oh i am so down for this! I'll cover shipping costs.

I've been looking for an herbal shisha to try out that tastes good.

**Edit: Don't know if I hit the five mark but if not, damn. haha** Edited by ColibriDon

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I am local, Ill swing by and pick it up....



Thanks,
-Christian

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I would love to review this stuff scalli, even be willing to pay shipping, i mean after all you wouldnt have to ship it far to get to me.

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Scalli, I think you definitely need a female opinion and as one of the minority women on the forum strictly in the interest of science, of course I volunteer. (Smile) Especially since I'm Cherokee. The blond hair comes straight out of a bottle.......

'Rani

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It's well past 5 people, but I would give it a shot. It would be nice to know what the main ingredient is, not because I want to make it but it's a bit off putting loading a bowl of god knows what. tongue.gif

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Since definitely more than 5 people already responded, there's not much point in this, but just to up the ante.. I'll PAY YOU to let me try this. Set your price and we'll go from there.

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i have smoked scull cap and elephants head many times both are very relaxing herbs.

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Dang guys it looks like I hve some catching up to do on replies. ohmy.gif For right now though I wanted to get a video posted and I was really busy today rustling ideas into action. Last day of the weekend I really have to get as much knocked out as possible. I am still smoking the bowl in the vid I am posting. It has been about 30 minutes into it and it started out great and has steadily been tasting better as it goes... at least for now. Mellow tasty smoke as thick as a brick. When you see how much smoke the first pull made I think you will shit yourself!
I will try and answer each post later.
This vid may still be processing so you may have to give it a bit and refresh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXX3y-wTfDU

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Uh... What's that thing you have the coals sitting in?

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QUOTE (Stuie @ Feb 15 2009, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Apperance at HookahStock?


As that MILF Palin would say: "You betcha" wink.gif


QUOTE (drabin @ Feb 15 2009, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ill post a video review on youtube if you want?
or written.
I also feel like you should put stuie on the list. he has smoked everything. its only fair he gets a try at this.


Yes I like video reviews myself. Stuie is local so he is automatically included. He does not take away from the 5 BTW.


QUOTE (soldier92 @ Feb 15 2009, 02:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll pay for shipping if I can get a sample, I've always wanted a good herbal but after trying Soex I gave up and just used tobacco.


You were in the 5 so I'll cover the shipping

QUOTE (Fluffy @ Feb 15 2009, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hey scali id be curious to try this


You're in



QUOTE (indian_villager @ Feb 15 2009, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sample for the villager?
You never stop creating do you.


I try to keep myself busy. It makes me content. You squeeked in there IV smile.gif


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