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Depression Ftl

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QUOTE (TheScotsman @ Sep 10 2008, 05:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Sep 10 2008, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Drink?



Worked for me.

Get hooked on all that psycho-altering medication and you are a goner for sure. Try dealing with a VA witch doctor!


omg...my VA doctor dropped me without any excuse, she lied, and now she wants me to talk to her again on the 23rd.

her excuse back then was "I'm moving into intake, so I'll refer you to another shrink so you can get comfortable with a new shrink in case anything happens.".....referral never showed up. My grandpa has cancer now, and I am freaking out. I went to the VA hospital and there she is...not in intake, but getting an outpatient for their appt, and I'm in tears. How can anyone just say, oops, sorry?...I have to see this woman after she said she thinks I have borderline PTSD (borderline personality disorder + PTSD) and just ditched me...

blargh....

I'm not going to say the VA completely sucks, but this therapist needs to get her stuff together.

The psychiatrist at the VA should be a good appt...one of the only things I'm looking forward to at the moment.

Therapy is useful for talking things out, maybe getting out what needs to be said if you can't say it to whoever you need to say it to.

Meds can help, but aren't a complete fix. I wouldn't recommend drinking as a form of therapy as it's not really doing anything other than masking or accentuating feelings...wake up and that feeling is still there. The emptiness, etc...and a headache.

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I'm going to go back and read this thread immediately after I make this post, but here's my situation right this moment:

I'm currently suspended from work pending a gross misconduct allegation and I'm currently in the middle of a colossal argument with my girlfriend who I love very much because I've realised that I ruin EVERYTHING every time I open my mouth. All my relationships, all my jobs, more than a few of my friendships, and it'd be my family too if they weren't so forgiving.

I'm physically unable to talk through this thing that started out quite minor right now. I'm too scared.

I've suffered with depression and more commonly anxiety attacks since I was about 14 or 15, 15 I think, when I got expelled from school (forgot that one, fucked that up too), I'm 25 at the end of July.

Fucking great, ten year anniversary being celebrated appropriately.

So yeah - everyone in this thread that suffers with it, I raise my drink to you.

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I've read up some about St. John's Wort. It helps or hurts. First off you need to know how much per body weight, and not just per body weight but your matabolism, blood pressure etc. I've read it can be extremely poisonous if used the wrong way, but under proper guidance beneficial somewhat.
Next question? Would you take the right quantity the right ammount of times per day? Its just like meds all over again. How about blood tests to see if the body has gotten used to them ?
All real medicine and plants do for your depression is strengthen the contact between both sides of your brain. For that a human body needs serotin. The human body produces serotin but if not enough in a human the right and left lobes of the brain are not in flow with each other.. You'd be missing signals and it turns to depression especially when the emotions are not in balance.
If you take your meds all the time and are having a problem go to your doctor and try one FOR YOU. Keep in mind that it takes around 3 weeks to get used to a new one. They work are beneficial you don't feel high or low. The only time you'll feel strange and weak emotionally is if you go offf them even for one day, just as if a person with low or high blood pressure went off their meds for one day. Go back to using them and you will feel capable of doing your best. By fluctuating you hurt yourself and your kids in the short and long route.

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It's gotten even worse, but thankfully I knew to go to the doctor yesterday. Good ole Zoloft.

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I've dealt with mild bouts over the years. I know there's the NHT rule so I won't break that but I will say a lot of things I did starting from when I was 12 masked an awful lot of issues.
When I was 22 I wanted to quit smoking and after several failed attempts that timed with when I would drink beer ohmy.gif I decided to stop drinking, smoking and other things.
At first I thought some of the things were nicotine drawbacks but as time went on even when things were going good like nailing some girl way out of my league I seemed bummed way too often.
I started spending more time on hobbies and things that would keep my mind occupied and give me more feeling of pride in things other than just trying pick up women. That sounds rather crude but it's honest.
That worked for me. I've definately had some moments since my accident but other than being a little grumpy and impatient with people I'm okay wink.gif

That said, the lead singer of Boston, Brad Delp, had it all going for him. If you ever heard him sing you'd know he was one of the best. He was a nice looking guy that the girls loved him. But he dealt with depression and ended up taking his own life. Depression is as much an illness as cancer and it's victims are just as random and it does not make sense and some people cannot go through it in a healthy way without help.
I would have never thought in a million years Brad Delp could have ever seen himself as anything other than a man that most guys would pay to be like. His friends and his family loved him. There were no evil secrets, he had a disease that does not give a rats ass if you're a good looking smart guy with all the talent in the world.

I admire you all for talking about it. That helps. Sometimes you can find ways to keep it under control. I think too many people think of themselves as damaged goods by realizing this is something they can't really get a grip on.
No more than me trying to hope my high blood pressure will go away on it's own seems to make up for what the pill I take every morning does for it. Just becuase it goes down does not mean it's not coming back with a vengeance if I quit taking it.
Depression is no different. You know Scalli won't lie to ya wink.gif Take care of yourselves folks.

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I think depression or another 'disorders' doesnt need any amazing reasons behind em, but just some tendency into it. But also when operating with stress, something has to change.

Also understanding this, that when man needs some vacation, things like cleaning and other responsibilities can be carried really softly wink.gif

Like i dont feel like doing this NOW, i do it tomorrow, or littlebit now, and littlebit tomorrow, and little by little away from the circle so can move on.

chill & peace

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I wasn't talking about that kind of depression either. A chemical imbalance is a chemical imbalance. Nothing really a therapist can help with. Hormones in the brain. A therapist can't talk the hormones into working correctly.


Sorry for double post.

Here is the problem: You cant know, is the chemical imbalance cause, or result. But if you ask me, i would say that i can really well cause my chemicals in brain go fucked up with just:

stress something alot (like just "my girlfriend left me") and so on
not to eat well
not to sleep well (and for the most: not to sleep at night and see sun at day)
drug use or alcohol, maybe just to forget some shitty things
not to move enough

and of this result of this behavior: deep depression.

but the most affecting thing, is the personal experience which leads us to act like we do. not a scientific talks about chemical balances and so on.


little snowball will grow and grow when falling down a hill, at last it need work to get it back on top rolleyes.gif

also we can feel like been depressed forever, how to handle this "waste of life" (which is actually part of life itself) but how small amount of time, is that year or two, if we live to 70 years old? just a little phase, bad dream, and life goes on.

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I have been there and back and although it may be crude and some people would advise against it my way of getting out of it was to soldier through it. I wasted some of my best years and opportunities on this bullshit, this giant empty bubble of a problem. Bust through it without regard for the pain. As strange as it sounds, the pain and depression become a comfortable place, a haven away from the rest of the world and the longer you stay there the further away from feeling better you get. Even if you get so incredibly tempted to escape and hide in the pain and despair, you have to fight through it and the best way is to set new goals or focus on reaching existing ones. Think of what you want and go for it hard. Working hard is one of the best things in life for a man, it makes you feel productive, useful and strong.
No expectations, don't project your thoughts and feelings too much, just do. The most conscientious man is often the one who suffers the most. I always felt best when depending on myself and going on gut instinct. I did great works with a clear heart and mind and failed at minor ones when overthinking.

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a rigorous excercise routine helps a lot. just workout till your completely out of breath and can`t continue any longer.
and like someone mentioned before; food can also have an impact on your mental wellbeing. some artificial sweeteners, preservatives and food coloring agents mess
with the central nervous system and can make you depressed.

drinking also helps sometimes. but don`t overdo it, otherwise you have another problem.

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Sorry to bring this thread up again like this, but I just haven't been feeling myself lately... sad.gif

Not sure how to control it when the time comes, because when it does, it gets really out of control, and usually it this feeling is the start of how it happens...

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damn...i know how you feel sloppy, im going through it right now too....life just keeps kicking my ass...people keep disappointing me...classes just keep sucking...women keep on being bitches...

sometimes i feel like i am allergic to life.

Here are a couple vids that a couple guys posted in chat that were nice, sorry i can't remember who it was that posted them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N-c8MIFvaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVF4r3fLBrU

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QUOTE (delSol_si @ Oct 31 2009, 02:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
damn...i know how you feel sloppy, im going through it right now too....life just keeps kicking my ass...people keep disappointing me...classes just keep sucking...women keep on being bitches...

sometimes i feel like i am allergic to life.

Here are a couple vids that a couple guys posted in chat that were nice, sorry i can't remember who it was that posted them!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0N-c8MIFvaI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVF4r3fLBrU

lol i posted the rocky vid

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I posted the 5 stair steps video.

To chime in with something of substance: I'm having a lot of anxiety and apprehension about my living situation after next semester. Most of my friends are older and are going to be graduating/moving on in life so there is a significantly reduced pool of candidates for roommates. On top of that, I've really been considering living alone. However, I don't know how I would manage without the guaranteed company that is a roommate. I'm not an asocial person, in fact I thrive on social interaction, I just keep myself really busy and have this hunch that living alone and being solely responsible for my life would be easier for me. This leads me to believe that the best option is ask one of my current roommates to move in with me given our relationship and his characteristics. The positive is that he's pretty self-contained and we know we can pull off living together. The negative is that he is antisocial (which I speculate is a consequence of his lethargy, which I find aggravating at times) and so I would be entirely responsible for my own leisure and social activities - which I would be if I were living by my self - but would feel guilty sometimes for not including or accommodating him. I have a good friend who is in a similar situation and he is furious and constantly complaining about his roommate. The difference, which I'm hoping is of substance, is that they were friends before they became roommates while I became friends with this roommate as a consequence of being roommates. Is it appropriate to bet so heavily on that disparity in the face of the unhappiness of my friend in his situation?

Anyone who has been in a similar situation feel free to chime in. Any help is appreciated.

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Well hate to necro such an old thread, but...

 

I am back on Zoloft after several months of working full time, teaching part time, going to school, and financial problems that rocked my family, I have not been myself for a while. Not sleeping, over eating and drinking a lot, knocking out a fifth of everclear every few days. But I now that I am back on meds, I am back to my old self again. Even my wife notices a huge difference. So I should be around more and to those I may have snapped at lately, I am sorrry, I was not myself.

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Thanks guys, I hate being on meds, but it's a necessary evil to get me through this rough patch.

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if it gets you past a hurdle you just gotta do it. good to hear youre getting better :)

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Good to see you back and glad to hear youre doing better stu, I have had some issues with small bouts every here and there, would not wish it on anyone. Keep your chin up brotha!

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Do what you gotta do to feel good, no judgement here brother.

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My work depresses me. But only because my boss makes extremely racist and generalized statements. For example, the n word and "Every single Muslim in the United States looks at you and sees you as an infidel. They want to kill you." One of my good friends is a Muslim, and he was appalled when I told him not all Muslims are extremists. My friend believes in the "good parts" of the Quran just like Christians believe in the "good parts" of the Bible. His response when I told him this? "Well I don't care, I wouldn't trust any Muslim." It was a very stupid debate that made me kinda regret moving back to West TN. I miss being around more intelligent folks, and it's starting to really eat away at my well-being.

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Dont let other peoples idiotic ideals affect your own life like that chreees, sometimes there's just no changing people like that and all you can do is brush it off because at the end of the day they are just words, and the people who know its not true wont take offense to it.

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My work depresses me. But only because my boss makes extremely racist and generalized statements. For example, the n word and "Every single Muslim in the United States looks at you and sees you as an infidel. They want to kill you." One of my good friends is a Muslim, and he was appalled when I told him not all Muslims are extremists. My friend believes in the "good parts" of the Quran just like Christians believe in the "good parts" of the Bible. His response when I told him this? "Well I don't care, I wouldn't trust any Muslim." It was a very stupid debate that made me kinda regret moving back to West TN. I miss being around more intelligent folks, and it's starting to really eat away at my well-being.

One thing I've learned about living in the midwest, you'll always have those people and its really sad. They're so "proud to be american" but forget that we are a country founded by immigrants.

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hey stuie, if thats what it takes do it, family is a major priority, if the dr says ur doing good after a few months and can taper you off and you feel comfortable with it then i think you shuold do it, but im glad ur in a better place. 

 

second note, WELCOME BACK VIMAL!!

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