ryno Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (MatthewLee @ Jun 13 2008, 03:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't buy my supplies from 'head shops'....'nuff said.Whats so bad about head shops? Locally, its the only place I can buy hookah supplies, and the people there are realy friendly, and if you spend over 5 bucks, you get a free pop. How can you beat that? And why is it because the place is a head shop, it makes it bad?Edit- I've bought from Neal once before, and it went smooth. I want to hear his side from himself to see whats really going on. He's always seemed like a great guy, and just got too stressed out. Edited June 13, 2008 by ryno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename067 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 It's wrong that he unleashed his rage and stress on you. You were just unlucky I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewLee Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) QUOTE (ryno @ Jun 13 2008, 01:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (MatthewLee @ Jun 13 2008, 03:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't buy my supplies from 'head shops'....'nuff said.Whats so bad about head shops? Locally, its the only place I can buy hookah supplies, and the people there are realy friendly, and if you spend over 5 bucks, you get a free pop. How can you beat that? And why is it because the place is a head shop, it makes it bad?If I may quote mushrat : "We do NOT want people to come to this forum and find any connection between hookahs and illegal substances. This will only give them ammuntion to use in anti hookah campaigns. "See, this person says they smoke NHT and hookahs, so we should ban hookahs!" While the vast majority of us don't do NHT and would never think of using our hookahs for the same, we KNOW that the few mentions will be the ones these types of people will look at."In the same vein...Personally, I don't want to associated with these unmentionables nor do I want the money I spend on hookah to be used by headshop owners to buy / restock non-hookah items. I won't support it or them...there are plenty of online/offline solely Narghila retailers. Edited June 13, 2008 by Johnny_D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 *sigh* you were doing so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewLee Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Jun 13 2008, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>*sigh* you were doing so well.Hahaa, what happened Johhny, what'd I miss ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (MatthewLee @ Jun 13 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Jun 13 2008, 01:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>*sigh* you were doing so well.Hahaa, what happened Johhny, what'd I miss ?hehe, I Just edited out a few norty words from your post. No Major problem... but we wouldn't use such directly terminology if you get my gist.Primarily because of our google ranking and it will archive and cache the post - For the exact reasons in your post above.No harm, no foul though JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthazar Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (antouwan @ Jun 13 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>raided? what was the pretext?This. Anyone know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (Balthazar @ Jun 13 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (antouwan @ Jun 13 2008, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>raided? what was the pretext?This. Anyone know?To get money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_dooley Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 (edited) I don't believe you. I think you probably pestered him five times a day like an impatient child for weeks, and he finally blew his top. Now you are taking your frustration out on him by trying to publicly drag his name through the mud.Was his response appropriate? No. But stop being a tool. You're just embarrassing yourself. Suck it up, report it to the BBB, and buy from somewhere else if you're that upset at TDP.-Ronaldp.s. - ah, I just noticed your big-font, red explanation that everything is cool and he's a real gentleman. Nice... after you've already publicly eviscerated him. After this worthless thread, my impression is that this "Neal" guy is just a normal businessman who made a mistake, and you are an immature sad act. Edited June 13, 2008 by ronald_dooley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dereksd Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 yea but he kinda has the right to pester him.if you ordered something and never got it wouldnt you do the same.i didnt hear the first convo but i heard the end of the second and neal flipped on holly and flipped on bjelder.you dont use foul language and yell at employees at all thats a no no.as someone who has dealt with customer service its the cardinal rule.yea the situations done but you dont skip to conclusions and yell and threaten a customer.yea holly fucked up but thats still neals problem as she is a member of dpg so that is shown upon neal also.if she seems to be the brunt of all his problems he should fire her and get his business on track and it should have been done a month ago when this started happening.she takes care of shipping and if he is having problems in that department the problem should be easy to see.neals temper is what got him into this trouble.if he wouldnt have called mush and yelled at him he wouldnt be banned and he could be here to state his case.its no ones fault but his Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjelder Posted June 13, 2008 Author Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (ronald_dooley @ Jun 13 2008, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't believe you. I think you probably pestered him five times a day like an impatient child for weeks, and he finally blew his top. Now you are taking your frustration out on him by trying to publicly drag his name through the mud.Was his response appropriate? No. But stop being a tool. You're just embarrassing yourself. Suck it up, report it to the BBB, and buy from somewhere else if you're that upset at TDP.-Ronaldp.s. - ah, I just noticed your big-font, red explanation that everything is cool and he's a real gentleman. Nice... after you've already publicly eviscerated him. After this worthless thread, my impression is that this "Neal" guy is just a normal businessman who made a mistake, and you are an immature sad act.What the fuck?Get a grip bro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (indian_villager @ Jun 13 2008, 01:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>The guy is hella stressed and in the past few weeks I have seen him get flamed to no end on this forum. Professional or not after being pushed to their limits people snap. Considering the troubles he's been having with getting robbed, starting up a business venture and the cops bugging him the man has a full plate. And every time I have talked to him on the phone the guy is running on absolute minimal sleep. I understand that message was unprofessional but think of what led to it.What led to it was neal not following the law wen he started everything. Thiunking he could get away with all sorts of shit he can't and getting caught doing it. Don't make excuses for a guy who brought his problems on himself.You folks want to keeep ordering from him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (Codename067 @ Jun 13 2008, 04:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>It's wrong that he unleashed his rage and stress on you. You were just unlucky I suppose.he wasn't unlucky, this is the way neal deals with soemting he doesn't like, he yells, curses, and blames everyone but himslef. He called me and immediately tarted yelling and cursing at me. I hung up and refuse to answer his calls. This isn't just a one time snap folks. I've been dealing with neal since he got on the forum. I've had to deal with calls from him on a regualr basis where he starts out screaming and goes from there. Don't just dismiss this behavior as someone having a bad night. There is NO excuse for him.He is pema banned from the forum. You can talk about him, you can write reviews for him but he will NOT be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 a few months ago he also started to personally attack a guy called tomas for giving him a mediocre review. i think there is no excuse for treating your customers like this, very unproffesional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (ronald_dooley @ Jun 13 2008, 08:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I don't believe you. I think you probably pestered him five times a day like an impatient child for weeks, and he finally blew his top. Now you are taking your frustration out on him by trying to publicly drag his name through the mud.Was his response appropriate? No. But stop being a tool. You're just embarrassing yourself. Suck it up, report it to the BBB, and buy from somewhere else if you're that upset at TDP.-Ronaldp.s. - ah, I just noticed your big-font, red explanation that everything is cool and he's a real gentleman. Nice... after you've already publicly eviscerated him. After this worthless thread, my impression is that this "Neal" guy is just a normal businessman who made a mistake, and you are an immature sad act.your impression is wrong. neal has run a business without a business lisence, has run a business without an occupance permit, has not paid his tobacco taxes apparently, and has repackaged tobacco without a permit. He has also tried to figure out ways to avoid paying taxes on the tobacco. One great idea is to sell stickers for money, then you can turn in your sticker for a free bowl of tobacco to smoke, thuis he's not selling tobacco. so he doesnt have to pay the taxes eyc. This sounds like a professional business man to YOU?I suggest you watch calling other members a tool. Can get you in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cymptom Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (ronald_dooley @ Jun 13 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>After this worthless thread, my impression is that this "Neal" guy is just a normal businessman who made a mistake, and you are an immature sad act.Haha... wow... a normal businessman who made a mistake? You've got your standards set at the very bottom if you think this is a normal way for a vendor to deal with their mistakes and with their customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrShisha Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Leave Neal alone...hes a G...and patience is the key to success...i dont like people coming on and degrading someone and just dishing the dirt out to everyone. Be understanding and be humble...the man works his arse off to please us and things havent been working out for him lately and so hes hella stressed...if we had his job we wudda ran away to another country by now if all that happened to him..happened to us. Sometimes its the anger that talks..not the person. Be patient and learn how to work things out first before just giving it the bees on the forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (MatthewLee @ Jun 13 2008, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>I'm not surprised.Place looks mad shady from the pics they have on their website.And I love this line :"Holly screwed up, he took it out on the wrong person."Great, so now I have visons of some female getting verbally destroyed by this character.Guy sounds like a real piece of work.I had the exact same impression.The only thing I find is worst taste than a vendor making a complete jitter of himself is one who looks to blame it on someone else. To me it sounded like she would have given any number just to avoid a shower in the bullshit-fountain named neal.I looked at their site, decided giving them my credit card number was the equivalent of writing it on the crapper walls at walmart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r1v3th3ad Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 holy crap...I missed a lotso his vendor thread is gonzo?(gonna hop over and look now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burton_o6 Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 After reading this, I'm quite suprised that I didn't get chewed out for complaining about an issue that WAS my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuie Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (MatthewLee @ Jun 13 2008, 01:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>And I love this line :"Holly screwed up, he took it out on the wrong person."Great, so now I have visons of some female getting verbally destroyed by this character.Guy sounds like a real piece of work.Visions...some of us watched live on Blogtv last night....it's always fun to watch a mental breakdown! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 In Truth though... If this is the worst you have ever been offended... I am guessing you have never tried to Drive the North Circular in rush hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 there is NO excuse for calling up a customer and cursing at them..NONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
staygone Posted June 13, 2008 Share Posted June 13, 2008 QUOTE (mushrat @ Jun 13 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>there is NO excuse for calling up a customer and cursing at them..NONE.I don't think Neal took business ethics 101. -QM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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