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the recent thread about a guy's friends wanting to use his hookah for NHT made me think

i thought about this and i wondered how dangerous it could be to buy a used hookah, say off EBAY.
there are alot of dumb asses out there who use hookahs for NHT

what if sum1 were to buy a used hookah online, and the owner swears they never used it for NHT, who would say they did on the net?

the person buys it, smokes it on his porch or w.e and a cop walks by. the new owner kinda laughs and says "no no sir, its shisha" then of course explains the whole ordeal we all go through

Cop insists that he checks it for NHT. the owner isn't worried, he is a good Hookah owner

BUT

the previous owner did use it for NHT, and it shows up on the test, and the dude gets busted...

is there any way we can prevent this from happening?

besides not buying used hookahs
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Ive had a cop come up 12 times and counting man...I got a good idea of it.


QUOTE (oolatec @ Mar 9 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Mar 9 2008, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No cop can TEST for that...he could take a hit of it, but it wouldnt taste like that and what not. Its not like they would take it in a lab know what I mean?


You'd be surprised...
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QUOTE (boulderkid303 @ Mar 9 2008, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I understand your point, but the time and $ it takes to do the lab test it will prolly not occur.


They'd easily make that back by your bail and fines. lol

And depending where you are at, they just might have nothing better to do. pirate.png
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+1 oolatec

they'll inconvenience you by sending it off, and if it comes back positive, you have to pay lab fees, witness fees, and court fees...among other things.

just get something made to clean that out, they sell all kinds of stuff.

but in reality, they can just do a field test on the bowl and shisha...comes back negative then they cant ship your hookah off.
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QUOTE (camelflage @ Mar 9 2008, 11:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
resin is almost impossible to get out of the porus metals used in hookahs. the cops can and will impound something if they feel like it, especially if they think it might come up positive.

yup, the cops can be douschbags...

"ya'll can't fuck with the poe-lease"
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You guys are all ridiculous.. NHT is decriminalized in most states now, and legal in quite a few for medical use. Its LOWEST priority on the polices things to do. Literally, Jaywalking is higher than busting someone for some NHT.

No cop would ever want to do the paperwork to have that sent off, tested, results gotten, bring you to court for a whopping $100 ticket.

I know people who have been caught with small amounts of NHT and the cop throws it in the sewer and says you're lucky, its not worth the paperwork.


I wouldn't want it just because the person had smoked NHT in it. I see my hookah as something above smoking NHT out of and no matter how clean it was, i wouldnt want that hookah.
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if the price is good, id buy it. the 420 cleaners get resin out of everything. i use rubbing alcohol and epsom salt on my hookahs, it seems to get rid of everything. (dont use nht or whatever, just gets rid of all hookah residue)
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Thank you....I agree with you 100%




QUOTE (PhishPhood @ Mar 9 2008, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You guys are all ridiculous.. NHT is decriminalized in most states now, and legal in quite a few for medical use. Its LOWEST priority on the polices things to do. Literally, Jaywalking is higher than busting someone for some NHT.

No cop would ever want to do the paperwork to have that sent off, tested, results gotten, bring you to court for a whopping $100 ticket.

I know people who have been caught with small amounts of NHT and the cop throws it in the sewer and says you're lucky, its not worth the paperwork.


I wouldn't want it just because the person had smoked NHT in it. I see my hookah as something above smoking NHT out of and no matter how clean it was, i wouldnt want that hookah.
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I would buy it and give it a really good cleaning. Also get a new hose! If your sitting there taking big hits off a hookah and your eyes aren't bloodshot and you can function normally I can't see cops harassing you or taking it to the lab. Plus just show them the tobacco.

Also a lot of people that smoke NHT have told me they don't like doing it out of hookah because it gets "wasted".
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I would be more concerned with learning your rights then finding out how to get resin out... Maybe even check out the amendments to the constitution specifically amendment 4
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probably cause, supported by Oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized."

That about sums it up..
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QUOTE (HookahReviews @ Mar 11 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would be more concerned with learning your rights then finding out how to get resin out... Maybe even check out the amendments to the constitution specifically amendment 4
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probably cause, supported by Oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized."

That about sums it up..


Probable cause? If he suspects there's NHT he can search/take it. Plus not every amedment is mandated in states. Thats why I can't carry a AK 47. Also most cops will threaten you if you don't let them search.
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QUOTE (voski @ Mar 11 2008, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (HookahReviews @ Mar 11 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would be more concerned with learning your rights then finding out how to get resin out... Maybe even check out the amendments to the constitution specifically amendment 4
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects against unreasonable searches and shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probably cause, supported by Oath or affirmation and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized."

That about sums it up..


Probable cause? If he suspects there's NHT he can search/take it. Plus not every amedment is mandated in states. Thats why I can't carry a AK 47. Also most cops will threaten you if you don't let them search.

ok.. i didnt bring it up but since the thread has basically started ive wanted to say this..

NEVER let a cop search your crap, even if you dont have anything to hide, its giving up a right that you dont have and wasting your time.

http://www.flexyourrights.org/busted/movie_clips

http://www.flexyourrights.org/

if a cop asks you to search your car say no, if he threatens you then stay firm, if he searches without your permission or a warrent he has violated your rights, if he finds anything because of that its void. Edited by Canon
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