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The Facts And Truth About Soex 100% Tobacco Free Herbal Hookah

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There are a lot of misconceptions regarding nicotine in the western world. The substance by itself (eg. patches) is used by some bodybuilders that are in the weight reduction stage of their programs. In small dosages it acts as a stimulating agent. It has been traditionally used in both Americas by the indigenous populations as a psychotonicum that alleviates fatigue and hunger. Curbing hunger = weight reduction.
Note that I am writing about nicotine, not tar and various other chemicals prodiced when heating tobacco. Also, small dosages, in large concentrations it is fatal.

edit: I'll try to gather more information when I have the free time and make a separate topic for all the health nuts wink.gif Edited by erufiku

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I was under the impression that, as long as you don't actually burn the shisha, but only cook the flavour out of it, you're not producing tar.

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QUOTE (gaia.plateau @ Apr 1 2008, 05:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was under the impression that, as long as you don't actually burn the shisha, but only cook the flavour out of it, you're not producing tar.


well, you are cooking it at high temp...the tobacco isn't burning, but the sugars in the molasses and glycerine sure are, thats why you are getting smoke....

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Wow that was a long thread to read through, but why is Exotica being so persistent on saying that tobacco is going to be banned in the USA. If cigs are legal there is no way from keeping people from smoking hookah. Yes they are both bad for you but you have a choice with hookah more so than cigs. I have yet to meet a person that is actually "addicted" to hookah. I used to smoke every day for about 3-5 hours a night and I easily quit smoking for 4 months. But started smoking again because I enjoy it, not because i need it. Cigs on the other hand...

I see this as just a marketing ploy to push people to buy Soex


edited b/c i can't spell Edited by chrisrbts

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He said in lounges, not in general.

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The reason why the packs are labeled 0% tar is because you dont actually burn the shisha but heat them at high temperature. When you smoke shisha tar is formed, but the tar is different to that of cig tar, the properties are different. What must be known is that many of the cancer causing agents that exist in cigarettes dont exist in shisha because of the lower temperatures. I believe shisha is bad for you but no were near the effects of cigarettes.

As "r1v3th3ad" was saying there was another post proving weather shisha contained tar. If you look on youtube you can find a video of the tar formation of cigarettes, its very similar to how a hookah works (a water chamber...) the water turns black after 400 cigs. Now you do the maths.... The tar in shisha is different.

The nicotine in shisha has allways been known as unadictive, I believe its because the nicotines properties are different. Even though you may be inhaling a lot more nicotine than cigarettes its been proven that nicotine doesnt cause harm to human body if its in its limit (not too high as you can become poisned).

I very much doubt that any future research in to hookah smoking will help... due to all the corruption out there. Money rules the world flaw the experiments. I wudnt say every scientist is like this but the ones in major organisations against tobacco (work on banning it)... Put it this way If I didnt know anything about a hookah and I came across a media report claiming that a hookah equalled 20...200 woteva cigarettes with an image of a hookah, I wudnt be suprised, I would fall for them and believe them. Edited by amnite

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ok this may be completly random but since Soex ISNT tobbaco or anywhere near having any tobbaco in it, wont it make it legal for anyone of any age to purchase it wink.gif

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QUOTE (Steemax @ Apr 1 2008, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ok this may be completly random but since Soex ISNT tobbaco or anywhere near having any tobbaco in it, wont it make it legal for anyone of any age to purchase it wink.gif


Theoretically yes.
But in reality no.
But no one on this board has to worry about that...

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hmm..off topic here, but why does hookah water go yellow after its been in the vase for a while?

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QUOTE (mathuv @ Apr 2 2008, 07:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
hmm..off topic here, but why does hookah water go yellow after its been in the vase for a while?


Thats the juices of the tobbaco seeping down the stem into the vase. Thus the Funnel comes into play to save the day.

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still..as you cook it even Nakhla will produce juices...

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QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you smoke tobacco, it will take you time to adapt to Soex. Some of us do not accept the facts but we like the Tobacco Nicotine. I do, I can not go without hookah for over a day. We smoke in the warehouse daily with multiple bowls. Is that good? Well no but I have to.

Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com
The Home of Exotica Charcoals / Coals



QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if I have a few errors in spelling or exetra above. Hvent slept for a few days. Just had a baby smile.gif

Take care guys.. Looking forward to replies!

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com



Anyone else notice this? I find it odd. I think smoke is still smoke...

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QUOTE (NUBBS @ Apr 2 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you smoke tobacco, it will take you time to adapt to Soex. Some of us do not accept the facts but we like the Tobacco Nicotine. I do, I can not go without hookah for over a day. We smoke in the warehouse daily with multiple bowls. Is that good? Well no but I have to.

Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com
The Home of Exotica Charcoals / Coals



QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if I have a few errors in spelling or exetra above. Hvent slept for a few days. Just had a baby smile.gif

Take care guys.. Looking forward to replies!

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com



Anyone else notice this? I find it odd. I think smoke is still smoke...

You have a very good eye, I didn't notice it till you pointed it out, now Smoke + Pregnancy = Defect, M I rite??

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Eh personally I think soex tastes like garbage.

But besides that:

I think it is morally wrong of companies to claim that their product is healthier based solely on assumptions. No real study has been done on Soex "herbal" shisha and I think it is fradulent of them to claim that it is a safer alternative.

I will take the box clearly labled over the mystery box anyday.

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feel sorry for her baby, if it has gone under stress from tobacco chemicals.

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QUOTE (Steemax @ Apr 2 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NUBBS @ Apr 2 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you smoke tobacco, it will take you time to adapt to Soex. Some of us do not accept the facts but we like the Tobacco Nicotine. I do, I can not go without hookah for over a day. We smoke in the warehouse daily with multiple bowls. Is that good? Well no but I have to.

Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com
The Home of Exotica Charcoals / Coals



QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if I have a few errors in spelling or exetra above. Hvent slept for a few days. Just had a baby smile.gif

Take care guys.. Looking forward to replies!

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com



Anyone else notice this? I find it odd. I think smoke is still smoke...

You have a very good eye, I didn't notice it till you pointed it out, now Smoke + Pregnancy = Defect, M I rite??



Thats what I thought. Unless Gabriel is a guy.

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QUOTE (NUBBS @ Apr 2 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Steemax @ Apr 2 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NUBBS @ Apr 2 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you smoke tobacco, it will take you time to adapt to Soex. Some of us do not accept the facts but we like the Tobacco Nicotine. I do, I can not go without hookah for over a day. We smoke in the warehouse daily with multiple bowls. Is that good? Well no but I have to.

Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com
The Home of Exotica Charcoals / Coals



QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if I have a few errors in spelling or exetra above. Hvent slept for a few days. Just had a baby smile.gif

Take care guys.. Looking forward to replies!

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com



Anyone else notice this? I find it odd. I think smoke is still smoke...

You have a very good eye, I didn't notice it till you pointed it out, now Smoke + Pregnancy = Defect, M I rite??



Thats what I thought. Unless Gabriel is a guy.


It's a guy. Musta been his wife.

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Let me put things straight up! The whole truth!
Gabriel is gone.
We will all still find a way to smoke tobacco based products, its in our blood now that we smoke, so Soex and Black Whatever can fuck off and so can them laws.

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QUOTE (mushrat @ Apr 2 2008, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NUBBS @ Apr 2 2008, 03:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (Steemax @ Apr 2 2008, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (NUBBS @ Apr 2 2008, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 04:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If you smoke tobacco, it will take you time to adapt to Soex. Some of us do not accept the facts but we like the Tobacco Nicotine. I do, I can not go without hookah for over a day. We smoke in the warehouse daily with multiple bowls. Is that good? Well no but I have to.

Looking forward to hearing your comments.

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com
The Home of Exotica Charcoals / Coals



QUOTE (ExoticImports @ Jan 4 2008, 05:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if I have a few errors in spelling or exetra above. Hvent slept for a few days. Just had a baby smile.gif

Take care guys.. Looking forward to replies!

Gabriel
Exotic Imports USA
LetsHookah.com



Anyone else notice this? I find it odd. I think smoke is still smoke...

You have a very good eye, I didn't notice it till you pointed it out, now Smoke + Pregnancy = Defect, M I rite??



Thats what I thought. Unless Gabriel is a guy.


It's a guy. Musta been his wife.

ya never know... wink.gif

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I didn't read everything, but what are the laws with tabacco in texas? I mean, we have hookah bars all over the place, and I know that the one here in Amarillo is letting you smoke tabacco. If they had just the Soex, would that mean that really young kids could go and smoke and drink tea and watch belly dancers too? They also sell it here, a crappy brand, but still not Soex.

I've never had Soex, and not sure on how I would like it. I smoke hookah pretty regularly, but can go for days on end without it. I'm probably not addicted...

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QUOTE (thecoalition @ Jan 4 2008, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if the govt did somehow manage to ban online tobacco sales (which i dont think will happen) does any have eric's cell phone so i can get my tangiers fix 24/7? lawl laugh.gif


No need to worry about online sales..... The US Government tried to ban other things and the "substance that encourages plant growth hit the rotating blades". The ruling came down that the internet is an international shopping place (among other things) and no one government has the right to ban sales of any kind. Period. So sayth our Supreme Court. Which is why you can manage to buy all kinds of things and get them sent here that will get you in a whole heck of a lot of trouble should anyone actually check those packages you have coming in from around the world.

'Rani

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QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Apr 2 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thecoalition @ Jan 4 2008, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if the govt did somehow manage to ban online tobacco sales (which i dont think will happen) does any have eric's cell phone so i can get my tangiers fix 24/7? lawl laugh.gif


No need to worry about online sales..... The US Government tried to ban other things and the "substance that encourages plant growth hit the rotating blades". The ruling came down that the internet is an international shopping place (among other things) and no one government has the right to ban sales of any kind. Period. So sayth our Supreme Court. Which is why you can manage to buy all kinds of things and get them sent here that will get you in a whole heck of a lot of trouble should anyone actually check those packages you have coming in from around the world.

'Rani

but they can ban shipping certain things i.e. NHT seeds and S***ia di*i*n**um, thats somewhere on the lines

Disclaimer: I posted that nht censored so that it will not show up in google searches and also if I just posted nht, everyone assumes the hippie version...I am not trying to violate rules, I remember that you can use it in serious discussion issues and that is how I am...This mentioning is not promoting its use or discussing its use.
If I am out of line, I would graciously accept my humping/hammering

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QUOTE (r1v3th3ad @ Apr 2 2008, 06:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (BohoWildChild @ Apr 2 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
QUOTE (thecoalition @ Jan 4 2008, 06:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if the govt did somehow manage to ban online tobacco sales (which i dont think will happen) does any have eric's cell phone so i can get my tangiers fix 24/7? lawl laugh.gif


No need to worry about online sales..... The US Government tried to ban other things and the "substance that encourages plant growth hit the rotating blades". The ruling came down that the internet is an international shopping place (among other things) and no one government has the right to ban sales of any kind. Period. So sayth our Supreme Court. Which is why you can manage to buy all kinds of things and get them sent here that will get you in a whole heck of a lot of trouble should anyone actually check those packages you have coming in from around the world.

'Rani

but they can ban shipping certain things i.e. NHT seeds and S***ia di*i*n**um, thats somewhere on the lines

Disclaimer: I posted that nht censored so that it will not show up in google searches and also if I just posted nht, everyone assumes the hippie version...I am not trying to violate rules, I remember that you can use it in serious discussion issues and that is how I am...This mentioning is not promoting its use or discussing its use.
If I am out of line, I would graciously accept my humping/hammering



Absolutely - Hence the "get you in a whole heck of a lot of trouble" part...... Banks automatically have some blocks like not accepting Euros which cuts down, but still...... The point is we should be able to buy tobacco online for at least our lifetimes.

Edit: I have no doubt our grandkids will figure out something entirely new that will eventually be banned as well......

'Rani

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