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    Diane Feinstien...Im Not Surprised

    Here is the reply I got Texas US Senator John Cornyn: [indent] Thank you for contacting me regarding the Tobacco Tax Parity Act of 2010 (H.R. 4439). I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter. As you know, H.R. 4439 was introduced in the House of Representatives on January 13, 2010. This legislation would increase the tax on pipe tobacco from $2.83 to $24.78 per pound. H.R. 4439 was referred to the House Committee on Ways and Means for further consideration. I believe that raising taxes will not provide much-needed fiscal discipline in Washington but will instead impose an unnecessary burden on working families and small businesses who are already struggling in today’s economy. Instead of raising taxes, Congress should focus on eliminating excessive overhead, wasteful spending and duplicative programs. In fact, the Government Accountability Office, an independent, investigative arm of Congress, has identified billions of dollars in federal expenditures that are vulnerable to waste, fraud, and abuse. That is why I have supported numerous efforts in the Senate to save taxpayers billions of dollars. Most recently, I supported a group of amendments that would have collectively saved taxpayers $120 billion by reducing discretionary spending and cancelling the spending of federal funds that have been unspent for at least two years and not obligated for any purpose. Furthermore, in an effort to combat wasteful government spending, I introduced the United States Authorization and Sunset Commission Act of 2009 (S. 926). This legislation takes steps to establish the necessary framework to create a federal sunset commission. The commission will improve congressional oversight and facilitate the elimination of obsolete and duplicative government programs—focusing on unauthorized and non-performing programs. This legislation is modeled after the Sunset Act, which the State of Texas instituted in 1977. The Sunset Act has led to the elimination of over 50 agencies deemed duplicative and has saved Texans more than $700 million, and I am hopeful that S. 926 will reap the same benefits. I appreciate having the opportunity to represent the interests of Texans in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me. Sincerely, JOHN CORNYN United States Senator [/indent] If you guys don't know already there is a Facebook page also dedicated to this topic: http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=455963235610&ref=ts In there you will see a post by Zak Cruise Carter which works on the campaign for John Dennis which is going against Nancy Pelosi. She is a lot like Feinstien. Its SO sad to me how the government tell us what to do. Where did "being adult" stop losing it's meaning. We can sign up for war and get bullets shot at us, but we can't smoke? WTF?
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    Ss Really Washed?

    It is awesome to read post about leafs on this site. You guys are definitely the real hookah connoisseurs for sure! Concerning leaf, buzz, and so forth. Not all leaves are created equal and to interpret leaf quality strictly through how much buzz it gives you is grossly incorrect. There are poor quality leaves with a lot of nicotine and high quality leaves with less nicotine. These too things are not really related. Like the saying goes, one man's trash is another man's treasure. Because I'm not hear to defend or market our product I will take Starbuzz as an example. Starbuzz is an [b]UNWASHED [/b] tobacco made of excellent quality tobacco leaf. This is without doubt. I can tell you first hand that the leaf used in Starbuzz is sought after by more hookah tobacco companies than you could know, even many of the brands you smoke now would drop their current provider if they could get that leaf. However, at the same time a cigar company might never want to even see this leaf in their warehouse. Tobacco leaves are similar to grapes and are susceptible to growing conditions such as soil properties, rain fall, and ambient temperature and so forth. The same “quality” grape will have different wine making properties depending on where it is grown. Aside from the inherent differences in the type of leaf used, different manufacturing techniques will have an effect on the perceived nicotine level in the final product. For the vast majority of shisha brands the leaf used is primary picked for its smoke qualities such as smoothness, nicotine level, flavor, and availability but not it's price. For example, we could buy leaf that is a half the price of what we use now and have a perceived buzz effect that would put people on the floor, but that wasn't what we were going for.
  3. We have had an intense desire from members of this and other forums to be able to meet and hang out with Mushrat from Hookah Forum, Mark from HookahWhisperer.com, and Sambooka from HookahPro.com. We are very fortunate to be able to have these pillars of the online Hookah community take the time from their busy schedule to spend time with us away from their families. Although this is such a short notice, and Mushrat will not be available due to his early flight home Saturday morning, we would like to extend an invitation to any member that would like to come to a hang out in Arlington, TX on Saturday morning. We will hang out between 10 am to about 1:30 pm. If you are free to come please message me directly for details. Respectfully, Abrahim Nadimi Dir of Sales and Marketing Social Smoke, Inc (This post was ok'ed with Mushrat before posting)
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    Social Smoke Shisha

    [quote name='HookahJohn' date='23 February 2010 - 03:00 PM' timestamp='1266958852' post='453170'] no, but if you are claiming as you do on your website 100% American made, then I would assume the tobacco is at least grown in the US. You will get your apology if you can get 10 long standing hookahforum members to say that I am in the wrong on this issue. It's not word games, 100% American has a meaning and it's misleading when the product is imported. [/quote] You are by no means an authority on what constitutes "American made". Requiring the tobacco to be grown in the United States is absolutely ludicrous. You think manufacturing shisha tobacco is just getting dry leaf and sticking it in a can?! You wrote a long and rambling message full of allegations. The source of our DRY leaf was not even in question. You attacked our tobacco without trying it, you attacked the use of the can without knowing why, you even attacked whether our product was original. In the end the only thing you can say is whether our leaf is grown in the US or not?! Come on. The meeting with the hookah forum owners/main moderators will be amazing and will end this conversation for ever. It is fine if you don't live up to your challenge, but the public record is there for all to see. Addressing the price, every product has different price levels. What makes pricing our own items on retail tricky is that we have to be careful of how we officially price products so as not to cut out retail stores and hookah lounges. As many Hookah Forum members know there is a 15% off discount code since 2004 called "hookahforum". In addition, we offer rewards points for repeat customers, we offer exclusive specials for members of our mailing list, and on top of that we also offer free shipping for orders over $50? HookahJohn, It appears that you will do anything to weasel out of your apology and the $1,000 you so freely offered up before your morning coffee. The invited moderators will make their post when the time comes and until then, as far as I'm concerned, I'm done with this conversation. We have tobacco to make, customers to serve, and boxes to ship out. If anyone has any questions or comments please contact me directly. Good Day. Respectfully, Abrahim P.S. For the local hookah forum members, we have always allowed local pick up of your orders so stop on by. If you haven't placed an order and still want to stop by, please do, we just ask that you give us a call so that we can be free. P.S.S. Mushrat just replied and has accepted our invitation. All three forum owners/main moderators have accepted.
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    Social Smoke Shisha

    [quote name='HookahJohn' date='23 February 2010 - 02:38 PM' timestamp='1266957512' post='453163'] i can only respond to this if adrock gives the ok, he said what i did was in poor taste so i will not continue since he owns this forum. i will be happy to respond or shut up, whatever the owners/admin of the forum feel is right. but what i can say is i need an explanation of points #1 and #5 that Abraham made. That is the question here, is it 100% made in the US or imported and processed here? That is where the bet lies. [/quote] Are you saying that to manufacture 100% made in America tobacco that we must grow tobacco leaf in our Arlington, TX warehouse? We import DRY flue cured Virgina leaf and manufacture it into a final product. Quit trying to twist this. Word games? Is that what you are resorting too? You absolutely need to continue this on this forum. You've already shown "poor character" when you made baseless allegations. Now finish the discussion. I want your apology and your donation.
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    Social Smoke Shisha

    [quote name='HookahJohn' date='23 February 2010 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1266942641' post='453112'] [color=black][font=Verdana][size=2]i just posted this on the other forum, this ismy take: Most of you guys have the same opinion as me, there is nothing original there,i mean seriously, can you package shisha in something other than the same exactround tins. "made from scratch in arlington", samb, i don't mean to call you outbut i have heard some lies in this industry for the sake of marketing that makeme chuckle, almost puke up a bit in my mouth. i have some "insider" knowledge in this industry. don't quote this asfact as i get fed a ton of lies every day in this industry and unless you seesomething with your own eyes then don't believe it. social smoke used to be ahuge account of SB. I think Texas' biggest. In fact years ago Social Smoke wassupposed to be SB's exclusive online retailer however, that couldn't really becontrolled by anyone as SB exploded and was available everywhere. Anyways,there was some sort of "falling out", don't know why or what but SBand SS are in some type of disagreement. Now, enter SS shisha, how convenient. Same look, same feel, but for $1 less,wow, impressive. I wish them luck, really, I do, but they will need it againstSB. Something about SB you guys should know as a company. Forget whether you are afan of their product or not. They DOMINATE the market compared to any new comerthat has made any feeble attempt at copying them. Let's put Nakhla and AlFakher aside as those are "classics" that have been around for waylonger and were the only choices of shish 10 years ago for the most part. SBwas selling shisha at double price before anyone could dare to do it. SB cameup with all of these "exotic" flavors, great for marketing. SB OWNSCalifornia, just go into any smoke shop or any hookah lounge. Not only that,they OWN Michigan and New Jersey, 2 major Middle Eastern hookah smokingcommunities. Also, they have tried multiple attempts to challenge Starbuzz, notonly in CA but on there own ground, like Skyzz or 360 or whatever. Even at halfprice, in their own state competitors can't come anywhere near SB status. Therehave been a ton of crap shisha to hit the market too. I don't want to name namesince I know many of the players, ok, maybe a few...de ja vu, number 5,cleopatra, the list can go on, I'll throw out a little hint here, as a consumerand as an industry person. If you want to compete you need to bring somethingbetter to the table, not just a copy and take off a couple of bucks. You guys can check the thousands of posts I have made and you will never see mepraising starbuzz. In fact, it's not even a big seller for me. In fact, I don'tget any benefits from SB. And to prove it even more, if the owner of Starbuzzis reading I don't even like you that much[img]file:///C:\Users\CHRONI~1\AppData\Local\Temp\msohtml1\01\clip_image001.gif[/img] Butrespect has to be given to innovators not replicators. Social Smoke, good luckto you, you will need it. And as far as it being 100% American made, I will betanyone of them at SS $1000 that it's not, I will go to Texas and inspect thewhole operation and report back, and if I'm a loser I will be out $1000 andapologize to SS. OK time for some morning coffee.[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] HookahJohn, Put your money where your mouth is... I see your bet and I raise you to $10,000. Social Smoke expects an apology and a $10,000 donation to The Child Foundation http://www.childfoundation.org/ upon disproving your accusations. Furthermore, I'll bet you another $10,000 that you can not produce a single invoice, email, or other document from any supplier or manufacturer to even remotely back up your claims. If you do not wish to lose $10,000 we expect an apology and a $1000 check made payable to The Child Foundation, which we will donate on your behalf. Either way, we will set the record straight. We have invited, at our expense, three well known and respected hookah personalities to tour our facility and make their own assessments of our honesty. Mushrat from Hookahforum.com Mark from Hookahwhisperer.com Sambooka from HookahPro.com I'm here to unequivocally state the following facts. There should be no doubt on any of the following: 1.Our tobacco is made 100% from scratch at our warehouse in Arlington, Texas. 2.Our recipe and formula are 100% developed from scratch and with no outside assistance. 3.We use no artificial colors or preservatives. 4.We do not wash our tobacco in any way. 5.We are a direct importer of the dry leaf to manufacture the tobacco. 6.We have been federally licensed as a tobacco manufacturer since February 2007. 7.Finally, rest assured that the tin cans are a means to an end. We've been working on a 100% custom made packaging for months and it is being finalized as we speak. It was never our intention on selling our product in tin cans. We pushed our manufacturing schedule up and tin cans are the most readily available package on the market that does not break, is not made from paper, or doesn't requires huge initial orders to be custom made. On top of that this is the ONLY style of any tin can shape that fits a 250g bag well. We did not market our new tobacco on Hookahfourm or any other forum, nor have we actively participated in online forums for years unless invited to do so. As always we appreciate the forums as a center for sharing Hookah knowledge and experiences, and value honest feedback and opinions, but feel that forum discussion shouldn't be a venue for vendors to plug their products and instead be left untainted and organic. For anyone curious about Social Smoke: Social Smoke is a family business that was established in September 2002 has been actively engaged in business since October 2003. We have worked very very hard to grow from a one man online retail website to an international distribution company. We've made it to INC magazine's [url="http://www.inc.com/inc5000/2008/company-profile.html?id=200804220"]2008 INC 500 list[/url], [url="http://www.fwbusinesspress.com/display.php?id=11147"]Fort Worth Business Press[/url], [url="http://money.cnn.com/2009/08/26/smallbusiness/hookah_entrepreneur.fsb/index.htm"]Fortune Small Biz Magazine[/url], and [url="http://money.cnn.com/video/smallbusiness/2009/08/19/s_biz_smgb_social_smoke.cnnmoney"]CNN[/url]. We alluded to our tobacco in the Fort Worth Business Press article which came out in Oct 2009: "And there’s another product line expansion on the horizon that will make its debut by the end of the year. The Nadimis just aren’t saying what that is." Bottom line we are not new comers to this industry, and we do not need help, support, or well wishes from characters like HookahJohn. We knew the owner of Starbuzz before the company had even been established, and we were the first company to market Starbuzz on the national and international market including the very states you mentioned (Michigan and New Jersey). We were also the first company to market Starbuzz online including places like this forum going back to 2005. There is no one on any forum that can educate us on Starbuzz,. We have no issues with Starbuzz, or its owner, and wish them all the best. We no longer distribute Starbuzz for obvious business reasons....We have our own tobacco and manufacturing capability. Respectfully, Abrahim Nadimi Dir of Sales and Marketing Social Smoke, Inc
  7. MZ hookahs have always been made in multiple hose styles. We have a bunch of different styles of MZ hookahs from 1-3 hoses for traditional glass base hookahs and from 1-6 hoses on rotating models. If anyone checks our website to confirm, you wont see 3 or 4 new models of traditional MZ hookahs for another week or two including the Perpetual River style so many forum members like.
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    What Kind Of Hookah Is This?

    Stuie is right, thats not an MZ, it a traditional Egyptian hookah, from what I've seen I think it is a Caravansari Hookah
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    Social Smoke Bowl Reviews

    Thank you very much for all the comments. One thing we have seen is concern about the discoloration of the stainless steel screens. Stainless Steel "stains" due to heat. This is a problem with any high heat application to stainless steel products. Grills, Pots, Pans, so forth. Here is a links that describe this: http://www.stainless-online.com/cleaning-stainless.htm Thanks, Abrahim Social Smoke
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    Metal Bowl

    QUOTE (John Stuart Mill @ Mar 21 2008, 01:28 AM) QUOTE (chromecarz00 @ Mar 20 2008, 04:47 PM) Try very little heat in the center only It’s my friends, and I’m just going to be sure to bring my funnel or super chief every time. I’ve been permanently scared by that one session and wish to never risk a repetition. I've been able to get a good smoke out of a metal bowl, the way i recommend using it is to put an extremely small amount of tobacco and use heat. I would say put half the tobacco as you think you should and use half the coal... The bowl tends to burn out after about 30 minutes, but should smoke well for that period. It takes some practice and for me I liked using it when I only wanted a short smoke or am smoking with people that don't smoke much... By the way, the bowl will be unbearably hot so be careful when you handle it.
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    Question Of Purge Valve

    QUOTE (NJE03 @ Mar 21 2008, 12:48 AM) QUOTE (mjdx88 @ Mar 20 2008, 04:50 PM) I'd send it back, you might get some freebes for it. Just my 2 cents. I just got my 2 hose Pharoah, did they send you some ball bearing with this? Mike Nope. no ball bearing. If a multiple hose hookah does not have ball bearings you can always use the other hoses/or hose ports as the purge valve. Most likely it was sent out with little black plugs to block off the other hose ports when not in use. This allows you to convert the hookah back down to a 3,2, or 1 hose hookah. When you need to purge the base, you would just remove one of the plugs... It wont be as convenient as simply blowing into the hose and letting the one way valve open and close, but it works the same.
  12. I stand corrected... But just to make sure, why not contact H-S direct and ask them? QUOTE (Canon @ Mar 19 2008, 12:19 AM) QUOTE (Social Smoke @ Mar 18 2008, 07:02 PM) I'm pretty sure that the myspace page is not actually owned or operated by H-S. That myspace page was created by someone outside the company that has signed up for an affiliate account through H-S and is trying to make some commission. It appears that they are trying to also do the same for the NHT products... my girl talks to whoever has the myspace up personally, and i have had them added for some time now, it is H-S
  13. I'm pretty sure that the myspace page is not actually owned or operated by H-S. That myspace page was created by someone outside the company that has signed up for an affiliate account through H-S and is trying to make some commission. It appears that they are trying to also do the same for the NHT products...
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    Social Smoke Charcoal Screen

    Great feedback. Stainless Screen "stains" due to heat. Considering how hot the charcoal gets this is expected. You can find info on that throughout the internet. For example here is a link to someone describing how to care for stainless steel grills. http://bbq.about.com/od/stainlesssteelgril...aa042305a_2.htm
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    Social Smoke Needs Your Help!

    The shipping will be reduced after the order is placed but before payment is processed. The website can't handle two discount codes for the same order. Thanks, Abrahim Social Smoke, Inc