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  1. [quote name='pollinaire' date='16 January 2010 - 10:25 PM' timestamp='1263705909' post='445958'] I bought a pack of Three Kings last night and I am 90% sure they are counterfeit.. I've never used Three Kings before, so I'm not positive. But these things started crumbling off in my purse while I was walking home, and when I lit them they smelled horrible and set off the smoke detector. They broke pretty easily when I squeezed the hot coal with my tongs. I've never bought anything but incense and clothes from this shop before, but I don't believe I will be returning. When I asked the guy if they had any coconut coals, he said, "Flavored charcoal? No, we don't have any of that." [/quote] Flavored charcoal! That's sad. I cant believe some retailers. You know many retailers are complaining of bad business, I wonder why! Thats why many people are going to the net to buy.
  2. Back to the topic of Three Kings. I visited a local smoke shop and saw that he has the Fake Three Kings that people actually liked although they were fake. Notice the shinny box and roll. They are bad copies designwise, however, their quality is better than the better copied designs where the box is a better fake, but the coals are pretty much stale quality and really crappy. If you look closely at the price, $3.49, more expensive than the originals, and although they say Three Kings, at the bottom of the box, it says Made in China. Also, notice the how the rolls are sealed and in the pattern. All charcoal in China is produced in two or three factories that private label and have varying qualities for every price. Will keep looking to see about the other copies I have run into and across that actually say Three Kings and not something like Three Queens or Three Men or Three Arrows or Three Crowns or Three ....., you get the message.
  3. [quote name='Sonthert' date='12 January 2010 - 05:57 AM' timestamp='1263301046' post='444731'] [quote name='HookahUps' date='09 January 2010 - 03:35 PM' timestamp='1263076531' post='444206'] [quote name='Sonthert' date='09 January 2010 - 04:25 PM' timestamp='1263075913' post='444199'] Golden Canaries Japanese or Abu Hitham Japanese. Whichever is available and cheaper based on the product. [/quote] Really! For some reason I thought you would opt to use something along the lines of the Exotica finger coals or the bulk charcoal. I have noticed that many lounges lately have swithced from the bulk charcoal due to the recommendations of the Fire Marshall, bulk charcoal, install a hood in the kitchen. I was checking out this hookah lounge a couple of nights ago, and the Fire Marshall made them add hookah stands to prevent the hookahs from tripping and falling over. The guy didn't like it at first, but later noticed that the breakage rate had really gone down. He uses tall KM and his lounge has to tables. The guy was told that the Fire Marshall in the Inland Empire is proposing that all hookah lounges in the County do that and is trying to pass it into law. [/quote] Disturbing. I am of the opinion that Japanese coals are safer health-wise. I think finger coals roll more, create more CO and create more of a hazard. We keep fire extinguishers nearby, both type ABC and a type D for such mishaps. None has warranted using them in 6 years though. [/quote] I stand corrected. I called them Exotica finger coals, however, they are not really rolled. More like long and square blocks, forgot the word, think it would be called a long block or something. In mathematics, all lines are curves unless they are straight, then we call them lines. Hence, a straight line is like saying straight curve. And a square is just that, a square where all sides are even. Something like that. Getting late and losing it. Anywyas, the Exotica are blocks and I guess the new ones are marked in three equal parts for easier snapping and using. They do a lot of ask, but are pretty good. Ok for me, but a bit to ashy.
  4. [quote name='Sonthert' date='09 January 2010 - 04:25 PM' timestamp='1263075913' post='444199'] Golden Canaries Japanese or Abu Hitham Japanese. Whichever is available and cheaper based on the product. [/quote] Really! For some reason I thought you would opt to use something along the lines of the Exotica finger coals or the bulk charcoal. I have noticed that many lounges lately have swithced from the bulk charcoal due to the recommendations of the Fire Marshall, bulk charcoal, install a hood in the kitchen. I was checking out this hookah lounge a couple of nights ago, and the Fire Marshall made them add hookah stands to prevent the hookahs from tripping and falling over. The guy didn't like it at first, but later noticed that the breakage rate had really gone down. He uses tall KM and his lounge has to tables. The guy was told that the Fire Marshall in the Inland Empire is proposing that all hookah lounges in the County do that and is trying to pass it into law.
  5. [quote name='Sonthert' date='09 January 2010 - 04:09 PM' timestamp='1263074958' post='444193'] The good-looking counterfeits I saw had a yellow diamond emblem on the box, rather than the goldish-coppery emblem Three Kings uses. I did a test burn on them and found the Three Kings to be somewhat better. That being said, these were samples of the counterfeits and samples tend to be better most of the time than the actual product. I have seen some knock-off samples that were as good or better than the originals. Of course, trusting samples is a disaster. [/quote] What type of coals do you use at your lounge?
  6. [quote name='K1024' date='07 January 2010 - 01:05 AM' timestamp='1262847925' post='443712'] [quote name='HookahUps' date='06 January 2010 - 06:40 PM' timestamp='1262832000' post='443665'] [quote name='Jacob Shock' date='06 January 2010 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1262821275' post='443618'] Oh well. a shitty knock off of shitty coals. they will be sold by shitty vendors because it saves them money, and like stuie said there customers will never know. [/quote] I disagree, customers get burnt once by a rip off retailer or one that doesnot know, they wont go back and avooid all togather. I have seen it happen so many times. So what the good and knowledgable retailers are doing, they are charging the same, if not a tad more, and saying, you want the real stuff, I got it. You want to take your chances with what you are getting and be ripped off, there are others for that. [/quote] sadly i liked te counterfeit coals i can get around here better. i never get any taste from them, but actual 3 kings have a weird flavor.. [/quote] Were those the ones that came in an airtight shinny wrapper with no writing? Those were actually not bad. They weren't Three Kings, but they were boxed in a flimsy Three Kings boc that looked like it was done at the local printers or on a commercial Xerox. You could see the shawoding from the copying. The newer fake Three Kings come in wrapper that is rolled. Many people think it is a bad batch, not the case, stale batch, probable and possible, but wrapper waseither no attached, or crooked, or glued sideways. Not perfect like the Three Kings. In production, you can have a bad batch or labelling and wrapping that is off, but highly unlikely to have both at the same time.
  7. [quote name='Jacob Shock' date='06 January 2010 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1262821275' post='443618'] Oh well. a shitty knock off of shitty coals. they will be sold by shitty vendors because it saves them money, and like stuie said there customers will never know. [/quote] I disagree, customers get burnt once by a rip off retailer or one that doesnot know, they wont go back and avooid all togather. I have seen it happen so many times. So what the good and knowledgable retailers are doing, they are charging the same, if not a tad more, and saying, you want the real stuff, I got it. You want to take your chances with what you are getting and be ripped off, there are others for that.
  8. [quote name='Stuie' date='06 January 2010 - 06:21 PM' timestamp='1262823681' post='443629'] [quote name='K1024' date='06 January 2010 - 04:16 PM' timestamp='1262816161' post='443594'] On the newer boxes of 3 kings they have a website that depicts the differences between real 3 kings, and fake 3 kings. It turns out that the fake 3 kings available around me, are just as good as the real 3 kings that I can get online... [/quote] Anyone Got this Link, post it please. [/quote] The website is as follows: [url="http://www.threekingsproducts.com/"]http://www.threekingsproducts.com/[/url] I dont agree with how they are describing the fakes because as some of you may know, all of the Three Kings used to have black writing on it. When the fakes came along, especially the really good copies, they used the same writing on the rolls, in black colored writing. So, I assume the real and original Three Kings changed the coloring of the new batches to red colred writings on the roll. The thing is, they use the 40mm as an example and compare it to the 33mm fakes. However, they dont speciofy if that new colored writing applies to the 33mm, or only the 40mm. I have seen original Three Kings with both black and red colored writing, and the 40mm in red only. However, I assume its only a matter of time before the fakes catch up. I have seen the really good fakes. If you have used Three kings, you can tell right away by noticing the touch of the foil,, the way it is rolled as in sloppy and loose, and not tightly and nicely packed. Many distributors I know are no longer carrying Three Kings, not because they are afraid of getting fakes, but because there is so much out there that is fake, they are afraid of holding onto the inventory longer than expected as people may not buy it cause of the overwhelming number of counterfits out there, so, the customers are avoiding it all togather and buying something else, so, the wholesalers and distributors have to hold onto it for a longer time, and in this weather, there are always costs of storage and sitting on inventory. I personally am switching to the Holland Miraculums sold by SouthSmoke, and the AF 33mm, or the Starbuzz rolls. I know what I get and get what I pay for. Also, many new charcoals now have European or Holland or Dutch names, but, they are not made in China, but the PRC. Same thing, but hoping People wont pick up on the abreviation.
  9. hey, hows business? I loved the shisha!

  10. QUOTE (chinamon @ Aug 31 2008, 10:22 AM) the foil packaging is very different so i dont think it can be called a "direct copycat"? the guy that sold me the box of 3kings last week even opened the box to show me inside. now i know why. I didnt want to say fake or counterfeit, so I thought direct copycat would sound milder. I knew they wre fakes the minute I saw them, just by looking at the box, but, with everyone making things lighter to reduce product packaging weight, I thought maybe, then I was sure they were fakes. I wanted people to be able to see this thread so they dont get ripped off by someone selling the fakes.
  11. Hello Everyone, I was scoping the market and checking out whats new when I saw these (picture attached, off of Internet). The box was soft and it said Three King instead of Three Kings. Unlike the Three Kings which I am used to seeing, These came in a roll that wasn't rolled, but sealed from both ends, make sense? I was told that they are the new Three Kings @@@!!!!!???? Dunno, looks fishy to me. I have seen indirect copycats like Three Crowns, etc., but not a direct copycat like this one. Anyone else seen or tried? Wishing everyone a Happy Labor Day Weekend, including those of us that are pre-emplyed and enjoy smoking hookah and thinking about going fishing. That would actually be kool, fishing and smoking hookah.
  12. I agree, but it does take a lot more heat to get it going, at least when I do it, and a lot of coal compared to the classic way of many pinholes. By the way, where did you see it done and what is your setup? Why do you think it works better with the clay and not the mod? Maybe thats why its not working best with me?
  13. Hello Everyone, I saw this being done several times at shisha cafes and coffee shops in Egypt and Syria, has some followers elsewhre, primarily with the Nakhla Zaghloul Blend and similars, been meaning to share, but kinda got busy and slipped my mind. I tried it with Starbuzz, Al Fakher, Al Amir, Layalina, and mine of course, worked ok, but took too much trial and error to get it to work right using this method, but, worked awesome with Tangiers and Zaghloul once you figure your own quanity and setup, and which coal to use. I tried it using the real Japanese Easy-Lites, some coconut blocks, and of course, lemon wood. The easy lites were the most convenient, but the lemon wood gave the best result. As it gets going, the charcoal is moved from the sides towards the center until the whole bowl is used up. There is a slight gap between the tobacco and the foil, and, it takes a bit to get going, heatup the foil as a whole, but once it does, smooth sailing all the way as long as you got the time and the charcoal to feed it. I was wondering if anyone else has also seen this done, does this, tried this, would try, and if so, what was there setup and shisha. A penny for your thoughts..... HookahUps
  14. HookahUps.com and Shisha.com are in no way what-so-ever affiliated or a part of Kamal or Jewels. Last time I was out scoping the market and the players, I saw a brand called Jawaher that comes in a round tin. Jawaher is Arabic for Jewels! Wonder if they are related or affiliated, or just another shisha player "copycating" and trying to agitate and intimidate and capitalize on someone else's work? One would imagine with so much resources and creativity involved, or lack of, the talents of certain players would be focused on new and aspiring products and names to raise the standards, not lower it! In the 12 years that I have been a behind the scenes player in the shisha and hookah market, I gotta bow and hats off to the classic players like Starbuzz, Al-Fakher, Al Amir, Layalina, Fantasia, Tanjiers, Hookah Hookah, etc. Sorry if I didnt mention the others. No lack of recognition intended. They keep progressing and changing according to the market based on creativity and competition. My two cents.
  15. Hello everyone, First I would like to thank everyone for their help. HookahUps is still here and still alive and well. Going into phase II of production, just waiting for the new samples to be shipped to me. I sent out over 200 samples to around 60 people from Hookah Forum alone. There was some delay in getting all the feedback and for the most part, only a handful got back to me. So based on the feedback I got, been getting samples back and forth from my producer and working on them based on the recomendations and critiques. As soon as the second round is finalized, with your permission, I will contact the people who were kind enough first time around and provide me with feedback, and send them the new ones. Name, packaging, design is almost done. Also waiting for the packaging suppliers and graphic designers and the legal mumbo-jumbo to be to finalize. No fly by night here, just want to do thing right and build a reputable name and site, not pump and dump with something mediocre or short term. Product testing and sampling, packaging suppliers, website e-commerce, legal permits, etc. take a bit of time sometimes. As I once metioned, I own Shisha.com too, so, need to launch a professional website and product line that will live up to the name and not just a template e-commerce site. I would again like to thank everyone, especially Mush, for everything. I assure you once things get going, you will not be disspaointed in the quality and taste. If anyone would like to add to the comments or reviews on the samples they got or would like to recommend the best and most prefered packaging preference, plastic tub vs. tin, round vs. square, etc, please let me know. Thanks again everyone. HookahUps
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