QUOTE (judgeposer @ Feb 22 2009, 01:00 AM) QUOTE (Zombone @ Feb 21 2009, 02:55 PM) QUOTE (mitchard @ Feb 21 2009, 05:21 AM) Get ready for the war-time economy. Bush tried that already and it got us into this mess. As tired as I am of the whole "green" thing I really believe that it will be our way out. Millions of good paying jobs and lower energy prices = a lot more spending on stuff. While the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, even with its supposed uselessness, did cause our government (under President Bush) to spend wildly, government spending didn't get us into this "mess," a combination of a housing bubble, subprime lending, and consequent trading of bad debt in the form of securities is to blame. Even still, I am sure some would blame our current recession on other considerations/causes, it is, at base, a financial crisis, having to do with finance, not poor government investments/spending. The trigger to the economic collapse is exactly what you stated, but, just imagine if we still had all those spent Iraqi billions right now, this bailout would have been a little better to swallow for the country, and the stimulus less than the amount of money we've spent rebuilding a foreign country that we just finished destroying.