spuman Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 i just quit smoking tobacco and i still smoke the hookahi got some herbal sheesia and it's GREAT! i am smokin grape right now. anyone smoke herbal sheesia?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shisha fan Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 what brand do you smoke? is it soex ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejoshman Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 im looking to get some herbal stuff too, from Soex. I hear good things, along with bad, lol. But I'll give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Just remember, the main ingrdient has nothing "herbal" about it. It's sugar cane fiber. The few times I've tried it if you get any flavour at all it lasts about 15 minutes then it tastes like you are smoking wood chips. Which, in a sense, you are. This is Soex for the record. They list their main ingredient in pig latin as Ugarsay Anecay Agasseybay. If they are that dishonest about their ingredients, no telling what else is in it. my $.02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuman Posted October 21, 2007 Author Share Posted October 21, 2007 QUOTE (thejoshman @ Oct 21 2007, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>im looking to get some herbal stuff too, from Soex. I hear good things, along with bad, lol. But I'll give it a try.the bottle say's "BLACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boulderkid303 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Stupid for smoking that. Atleast in real shisha you know what your getting. I agree with mush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 That'd be the hookah-hookah black line...which I haven't tried yet.Soex is Garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicayotte Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 To be honest you are not gaining any life or saving it by smoking this herbal stuff, you are still smoking and any form of it is still bad. Personally I feel that it is pointless to smoke something that just has lighter effects on a harmful practice itself. Its almost like telling a cocaine addict he can still do cocaine but only a smaller dosage a day.....Thats my 2 cents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New2Hookah Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 So how is this Black line stuff? How many diff. flavors have you trried?As everyone else said, SOEX aint that great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 mushrat is on the money.How is smoking shredded sugar cane any better than tobacco?At least with tobacco you know what's what JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaara Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 IMO, it is safer compared to tobacco but it tastes like shit in my experience with Soex. If you're going to be smoking in the first place, at least enjoy it to the fullest extent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IMO, it is safer compared to tobacco but it tastes like shit in my experience with Soex. If you're going to be smoking in the first place, at least enjoy it to the fullest extent.Sorry Gaara, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but what makes you believe it's safer compared to tobacco?I've never seen anything to suggest that.JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaara Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Oct 22 2007, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IMO, it is safer compared to tobacco but it tastes like shit in my experience with Soex. If you're going to be smoking in the first place, at least enjoy it to the fullest extent.Sorry Gaara, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but what makes you believe it's safer compared to tobacco?I've never seen anything to suggest that.JDYou honestly don't think that tobacco is more harmful than sugarcane extracts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Oct 22 2007, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IMO, it is safer compared to tobacco but it tastes like shit in my experience with Soex. If you're going to be smoking in the first place, at least enjoy it to the fullest extent.Sorry Gaara, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but what makes you believe it's safer compared to tobacco?I've never seen anything to suggest that.JDYou honestly don't think that tobacco is more harmful than sugarcane extracts?Your kidding right. You don't honestly think that smoking Sugarcane extracts is LESS harmfull than tobacco?My point is this - People have been smoking,chewing,rubbing,humping tobacco for the past 200 years [give or take a bit]It has a proven track record - one know's exactly what one gets from tobacco.I'm not sure the same could be said about 'herbal' alternatives?JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saravyn Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Oct 22 2007, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Oct 22 2007, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IMO, it is safer compared to tobacco but it tastes like shit in my experience with Soex. If you're going to be smoking in the first place, at least enjoy it to the fullest extent.Sorry Gaara, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but what makes you believe it's safer compared to tobacco?I've never seen anything to suggest that.JDYou honestly don't think that tobacco is more harmful than sugarcane extracts?Your kidding right. You don't honestly think that smoking Sugarcane extracts is LESS harmfull than tobacco?My point is this - People have been smoking,chewing,rubbing,humping tobacco for the past 200 years [give or take a bit]It has a proven track record - one know's exactly what one gets from tobacco.I'm not sure the same could be said about 'herbal' alternatives?JDUsing your arguement, can you honestly say that it isn't LESS harmful then? If you don't know the facts, don't try to convince others of it's "so-called" danger over tobacco. It's much better to remain neutral on this until some facts are known and some research has been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalSoil Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 if you smoke something. its not good for you.Johnny D is arguing that its not safe to smoke it. he's merely relating that why hamper your smoking experience by limiting yourself to herbal alternatives that will still harm you.It is proven that tobacco has carcinogens, released primarily when heated to high temperatures. This is because people have been using it for so long.If you go smoke paper it will not be good for you. If you smoke anything it is going to leave some kind of deposit on your lungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushrat Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Johnny_D @ Oct 22 2007, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>QUOTE (Gaara @ Oct 22 2007, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>IMO, it is safer compared to tobacco but it tastes like shit in my experience with Soex. If you're going to be smoking in the first place, at least enjoy it to the fullest extent.Sorry Gaara, I'm not trying to be an ass here, but what makes you believe it's safer compared to tobacco?I've never seen anything to suggest that.JDYou honestly don't think that tobacco is more harmful than sugarcane extracts?It's not sugar cane extracts, its sugar cane fiber..the actual cellulose part of the sugar cane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreengoblin707 Posted October 22, 2007 Share Posted October 22, 2007 Hey - if I'm going to get screwed - I might as well enjoy myself. Considering how unhealthy any kind of smoke in the lungs is - the less danger with herbal shisha is probably trivial (I'm no expert). So I might as well enjoy myself and go all out with a Zaghloul. Nakhla is just not giving me any buzz. That's my thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 QUOTE (EternalSoil @ Oct 22 2007, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>if you smoke something. its not good for you.Johnny D is arguing that its not safe to smoke it. he's merely relating that why hamper your smoking experience by limiting yourself to herbal alternatives that will still harm you.It is proven that tobacco has carcinogens, released primarily when heated to high temperatures. This is because people have been using it for so long.If you go smoke paper it will not be good for you. If you smoke anything it is going to leave some kind of deposit on your lungs.Thanks. At least someone understands the point i'm trying to make. JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 QUOTE (Saravyn @ Oct 22 2007, 08:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Using your arguement, can you honestly say that it isn't LESS harmful then? If you don't know the facts, don't try to convince others of it's "so-called" danger over tobacco. It's much better to remain neutral on this until some facts are known and some research has been done. I'm not trying to convice anything of a damn thing. Smoke what you like.The point I am trying to make has been spelled out above by EternalSoil JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hookah hippie Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 So anyone know of harmful effects of smoking sugar cane?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_D Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 QUOTE (hookah hippie @ Oct 23 2007, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>So anyone know of harmful effects of smoking sugar cane??No. But it's probably not going to be good for you LOL!JD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oggie505 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 To me the affects of herbal shisha will be as unknown as normal shisha. Smoking anything is bad, I will give you that. But any study on tobacco shisha is always bias, and depending on how it is tested one result will vary from another. The same will go with the herbal brands. Just remember smoking anything is not healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angel Posted October 26, 2007 Share Posted October 26, 2007 hey againlike i post on the other forum, if you want to try soex for free go to http://hookahhost.com/catalog/Free_Molasses.aspx?PageNo=1 i got some yesterday . i only paid for shipping. nice flavors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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